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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2004, 12:28:36 AM »
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What happened to the Caseless HK weapon in I think 4.7mm - G10?


http://www.hkpro.com/g11.htm

End of doc gives reasons for it's demise.

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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2004, 01:25:15 AM »
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Whatever they come up with it should have looser tolorences than the m-4 so as not to jam up in the desert so much.
thats what made the AK-47 so good.

not as good as the RC51 though

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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2004, 01:26:48 AM »
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not as good as the RC51 though


I believe the RC51 is a motorcycle.

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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2004, 01:30:12 AM »
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I believe the RC51 is a motorcycle.

I believe that you have problems you can't handle.

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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2004, 01:31:52 AM »
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I believe that I have problems I can't handle.

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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2004, 01:35:21 AM »
OOOOOOHHHHHH how very clever, changing quot e..


Pardon me I am derunkl!


Are you mister blaczk?

YOU can admit it...

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2004, 01:36:44 AM »
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OOOOOOHHHHHH how very clever, changing quot e..


Pardon me I am derunkl!


Are you mister blaczk?

YOU can admit it...


Step away from the bottle.:D

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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2004, 01:40:30 AM »
HOw mudh fun would thsat be?

Man I want to do somethingmean to my upstairs neighbors. I think they are jumping up and down to piss me ooff!

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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2004, 01:44:58 AM »
pull the fire alarm:(

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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2004, 01:55:41 AM »
shoo we are talking guns here

a thread about a dead,dweeby,lich-looking guitarist is........
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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2004, 02:38:51 AM »
Good point.

Back to guns, I checked out one of the videos, interesting controlls on that thing, and I tghink a guy was shooting it one handed.

I suck. I hijacked :(

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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2004, 04:13:09 AM »
Never used a RC51 - could you post a pic or some stats?

I have used:

Fn Fal
Fn Fal cut down
Ak47
Galil
R4 & R5 - Licenced Galil copies in South Africa
Uzi - rubbish
Browning MG in 7.62
Bren in 7.62
Cz75 9mm
Star 9mm
Browning HP 9mm
Tokarev 7.62
40mm grenade launcher
Rpg7
Lrac A/t weapon 89mm I think
88mm Bazooka - just plain scary
60mm patmor
81mm mortar
M26
M8 WP grenades
various claymore, toe poppers and at mines

never did qualify on the milan or the 106mm rcl which would have been nice.

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2004, 04:30:04 AM »
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Never used a RC51 - could you post a pic or some stats?

I have used:

Fn Fal
Fn Fal cut down
Ak47
Galil
R4 & R5 - Licenced Galil copies in South Africa
Uzi - rubbish
Browning MG in 7.62
Bren in 7.62
Cz75 9mm
Star 9mm
Browning HP 9mm
Tokarev 7.62
40mm grenade launcher
Rpg7
Lrac A/t weapon 89mm I think
88mm Bazooka - just plain scary
60mm patmor
81mm mortar
M26
M8 WP grenades
various claymore, toe poppers and at mines

never did qualify on the milan or the 106mm rcl which would have been nice.


RC51 Is a motorcycle produced by Honda

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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2004, 04:58:17 AM »
Love the FN-Fal's and Galil's (Ar model in 7.62). They both posses very good reliability and human engineering. Both are accurate for semi's and very comfortable to shoot as I can get a comfortable cheek-weld. Trigger's not great but not bad either. Both have excellent balance.

Hate the HK-91 series. Poor human engineering, reliability (fluted chamber hates sand). Worst trigger pull of the bunch. Worst front sight- the hood way too thick, the brittle front sight plate too wide, leading to poor accuracy. Poor balance, weight shifted more towards barrel end. Awkward for me.

Love the human engineering of the M16 series, just hate the fact of direct exhaust gasses contaminating the rotating bolt directly.
 
Hate the human engineering of the AK47 series. Love the reliability which is the best of the bunch. Worst accuracy of the bunch.

The above is my opinion only based on the samples that I've fired. I really like the 7.62 NATO round (I like the fact that I don't need to buy two different calibers of ammo to shoot my L1a1 and Rem 700 PSS. Wish I had the opportunity to own a Galil AR762 (I did own a Galil AR223. Was my all time favorite except for the caliber.)

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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2004, 10:53:40 AM »
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WOW!!!  Everyone should take a look at these videos!

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?s=1-292925-xm8.php


Really interesting stuff!


the XM8 reminds me of the G-36...I guess it has the H&K genes after all..



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