Fetus protection laws

[GtoRA2]

How do you guys feel about them?

Link to article about the proposed National law.

29 states have them and now they may become a federal law.


I find them a little odd.

We allow abortion(in most cases I am pro choice, but I think we should decide when that fetus becomes a life and then ban all abortions after that time, except where the mothers life is in danger), but if a prego women is attacked and her fetus is killed it is murder. That is hypocrisy.


The little fetus has value and can be murdered; well unless the mom does not want it then it is just so much trash we flush.


Some dems are opposing it calling it Abortion politics even though there is a clause that says abortions do not count.

[rpm]

Haven't read the entire thing, but isn't there a certain point in the pregnancy that it is considered viable? When you start talking abortion/murder it get's very murky, very fast.

[GtoRA2]

I do not think that has ever been set on the abortion side. I think it should.

I think in these laws, viable dont me ****, if you attack a 3 week prgo women and she loses it, or you just kill her you are facing murder for both her and the fetus. Or just the fetus.



At some point the whole its "my choice" thing becomes bull****.

I see no reason why we can not say that after say 6 months that fetus is life and to harm it in any way is murder. I would like to see two exceptions. One for the mothers health, and the other for the babies. Other then that I fail to see why this would be a bad thing?

[midnight Target]

Apples and Oranges.

[ra]

I see no reason why we can not say that after say 6 months that fetus is life and to harm it in any way is murder.

Because the Supreme Court has decided that this issue is too important for the legislative branch of government to handle.

[FUNKED1]

I think they need to decide when fetus becomes a person and make the laws consistent.  If it's murder to kill it then you sure as hell can't abort it.

[GtoRA2]

How is it apples and oranges MT?

We are talking about the death of a fetus in both cases?

[lasersailor184]

I think they need to decide when fetus becomes a person and make the laws consistent. If it's murder to kill it then you sure as hell can't abort it.

Dead on.  In fact, most places you can't have an abortion in the third trimester.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
How do you guys feel about them?

I think it is a step in the right direction, a direction towards a state of awareness of a life so easily suck/flushed from existence every hour of everyday, 365 days a year



21 weeks

[Hortlund]

Eagler, what is the story behind that picture? Did the kid make it?

[texace]

This is always a touchy subject. Until there is a federal mandate telling us when a fetus is no longer just a clump of cells and is actually a person, then there really is no argument. We can fight all day long about when and why, but unless the government mandates it, it'll never be illegal, regardless of how moral it is.

Anyone notice the influx of morality laws lately?

[Kieran]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Apples and Oranges.

Really? How?

[Sandman]

IMO, the life of the child is the mother's to bestow. It's her right to choose and no one else.

If someone hurts/maims/kills an unborn child against the wishes of the mother, they deserve to be punished accordingly.

[texace]

Ding!

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
IMO, the life of the child is the mother's to bestow. It's her right to choose and no one else.

If someone hurts/maims/kills an unborn child against the wishes of the mother, they deserve to be punished accordingly.

Great, so if my kids cause me too much trouble it is my right to bestow death upon them later?