When will they catch Bin Laden?

[miko2d]

muckmaw: You certainly do sound like quite a fan, Miko.

 Bravery is a usefull trait of character that has nothing to do with morality. It's a capability, not an ethical value. The man is capable in many respects, not just bravery. Why would I care for me or any of my countrimen to underestimate him?

 Saying OBL is a brave is like saying enemy's weapons shoot hard bullets. There is nothing wrong admitting that enemy's bullets are hard and present real danger.

 Armchair generals lose nothing claiming the opposite but when push comes to shove, it's better to be operating on the basis of reality for everyone involved.

 Many people on this board confise the difference between good/evil and smart/stupid, brave/cowardly, shiftless/motivated, etc.


Eagler: or proof of his insanity .. the guys a nutbag

 True, but that applies equally to any religious person - muslim, christian, socialist, democrat, etc. Any person basing his decision on irrational belief is acting insanely.

 Some are just much more capable and motivated in bringing their insanity to their logical conclusion.


SunTracker: Its easy to live a life of fighting and hiding if one is a fanatical muslim.

 It's not easy. The cold, the pain, the instinct of self-preservation, the love for one's family are the same.
 Most religious people are quite sure they will get to paradize without exposing themselves to as much danger or hardship.

Its similar to running a marathon if you believe there is a stack of gold bars waiting for you at the end.

If OBL was in a rush to get the "gold", he could have easily died taking a couple of enemies with him.

 miko

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Even his fellow muslims, albeit the educated ones, confirm that the 72 virgins in heaven rumor is nothing but a fallacy, a method for militants to get their uneducated, often foolish young soldiers to do what they want.

WHAT???? Oh man, I was seriously considering conversion.

[Park]

"If we do something bad, it's because we were British. If we do something good, it's because we are unique, reborn people."

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by AKIron
WHAT???? Oh man, I was seriously considering conversion.

Why would anyone want 72 virgins anyway?

I've had 2 virigns in my life and they were both terrible in the sack.

I'll convert if they promise 72 Porn Stars.

[AKIron]

I didn't intend for them to stay virgins.

[miko2d]

Capt. Pork: Bin Laden is as vain as any other...

 I am really not willing to go any further discussing the meaning of "vain". All I mean was that he is not seeking superficial publicity and that makes him harder to find. If he produced weekly videos of himself surrounded by a bunch or adoring followers instead of voice tapes twice a year, we would have him already.
 Maybe it's nor related to vanity at all - whatever it is, you know what I mean.

Think about it--whose life has he improved through his actions?

 I have been thinking about it. His goal was never to improve any person's life but to advance a cause and change the course of history in the direction he prefered.
 The losses you list are not nessesarily perceived as losses by him.
 As far as he is concerned, his dead followers are in paradize and he has more living ones. US did not just unseat one lousy dead-end government that must have been an embarassment to wahhabis. US also unseated a stable secular socialist regime that was his enemy.

He's leading an ascetic life right now, sure, but so did David Blaine when he locked himself in a plexiglass box over the Thames.

 If you claim that any person who's achieved publicity had no other goal but that publicity itself, you can list any public person starting with all US presidents.

He understands that withholding emotion while saying the things he says will elicit ten fold the emotion in his target audience--us, the Western observers.

 I disagree that we are his target audience altogether. What kind of emotion do you think he could elicit from us?
 Surrender and convert to islam? That is not something we could do. Scare us into leaving the Middle East? That is likely the opposite of what he wants.

Finally, in regards to his bravery in the face of danger.... Britney Spears could kick his bellybutton and not break a sweat.

 I don't know - maybe she is very brave. She is certainly very athletic. Let's hope she will join the Northern Alliance militia and helps them to track him down.

 miko

[Gixer]

Same day they find Elvis.



...-Gixer

[Capt. Pork]

Miko,

Tih Russki, nyet? Ya sam is moskvih.

[miko2d]

Capt. Pork: Miko,
Tih Russki, nyet? Ya sam is moskvih.

 Bivshiy sovetsky, po krainey mere. Tochneye s Ukrayini, no ya viros v russko-govoryashei culture.

 miko

[senna]

Hey I didnt know you were Russian.

[miko2d]

senna: Hey I didnt know you were Russian.

 Well, there is that "profile" button and also my avatar in soviet military headgear with a T-72 cannon on my shoulder...

 miko

[Nakhui]

Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Miko,
Tih Russki, nyet? Ya sam is moskvih.

On net Russki zhelovek, On smeshnij durakom.

Gde v moskve zhevush'?

Ya budu idet' k Budapestu poslednomu ponidelnikom.

Ochen' bol'shoe delya s farmeseuticom.

Khochish' pit' pivo so mnoj?

[Maniac]

pivo = beer right?

[Habu]

Hmmmm.

Looks like they have a live one cornered. And still within my 3 weeks prediction.

Pakistanis May Be Near al-Qaida's No. 2