Author Topic: Classic dogfights that you wish you could have seen (Read 653 times)

Angus · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:23:00 AM »

Nice thread!
Adolf Galland had a scrap with Robert Stanford Tuck in the Battle of Britain.
They shot down each others wingmen before disengaging.
When Tuck was later shot down and captured they met and found this out over dinner.
Galland is told to have said something like "That makes us even Stevens"
Always admired Galland to his gentelmanly behaviour towards the allied pilots, - wonder how many of them he took to dinner!
Must be able to dig up more of those stories, - if I do I'll add it.

Mathman · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2001, 10:41:00 AM »

I would have liked to see the Marianas Turkey Shoot. Not just because of the sheer number of victories by the pilots flying my beloved Hellcat, but to see the intensity of the people involved when they saw the raids inbound on the radar and sent the CAP fighters to intercept them.

-math

skernsk · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2001, 10:51:00 AM »

Battle of Britain -----

discod · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2001, 01:48:00 PM »

Well with today's technology in movie making, maybe soon someone will make a good movie that will let us see some of these dogfights

As long as there ins't a complicated soap opera love triangle in the movie, it should be ok

Kieran · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2001, 01:54:00 PM »

Discod-

Yeah, and we could miss stupid lines like, "We can't outrun 'em, forget it. We'll have to outfly them!"

Raubvogel · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2001, 02:17:00 PM »

Willi Reschke and Owen Mitchell. I'd also like to see the sortie that Marseille scored 8 kills in 10 minutes on.

Hobodog · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:23:00 PM »

Maybe a hypothetical fight like 4 F8s and 4 F7s versus 40 zekes or something. Just imagine the look on those zeke pilots faces when that bearcat acclerates up at a 60angle. Maybe leave one of the Bearcats stripped so he can show off to the zekes let one on his tail then accelerate into the verticle and be gone.

Hristo · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:35:00 PM »

Erich Rudorffer's 13 kill sortie. Anyone got more info ?

Wlfgng · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:55:00 PM »

Hblair vs Drex

Am0n · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2001, 10:29:00 AM »

Theres one that i would like to have whitnessed or even know the names of the american pilots who flew it.

Durring the Pearl Habor invasion i read that only 6 amercan planes made it off the ground. 2 of which were p51b pilots that over came many obsticles killiing 6 japanses fighters. I dont know if they lived or died or who they were. does anyone know ?

you can only emagine how out numbered they were, they get a big salute from me for sure.

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]

Seeker · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2001, 10:42:00 AM »

Amon,

Take a look here:
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch1.html

As for odds, Vics of Spits rolling over and peeling off with a Tally Ho! into a hundred He.111's with top cover.....

Am0n · « **Reply #26 on:** December 18, 2001, 11:03:00 AM »

thank you seeker you are the dewd!

**EDIT** It was the p40, not the p51. just wanted to correct that.

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]

DarkglamJG52 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 06, 2002, 04:50:28 AM »

Gunter Rall vs Hub Zemke(56th Group)

12-5-1944

Drano · « **Reply #28 on:** May 06, 2002, 12:06:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Sancho
1 Sep 1942: Hans-Joachim Marseille's 19 victories. 9 were shot down in one sortie. Story is his armorer counted the ammo after the sortie and saw Jochen had used just 20 cannon shells and 60 mg rounds to down the planes. He later shot down 8 more in 2 sorties later the same day. This in a 109F against British Kittyhawks and Spits.

My personal favorite account. Not just because I'm a 109 guy either. Really!

Drano

HFMudd · « **Reply #29 on:** May 06, 2002, 12:20:05 PM »

Wouldn't Marseille's 9 victory sortie be rather boring to watch?

The Brit's below manuvering in an outdated Luftbery circle and Marseille using BnZ tactics to bring down the poor blighters one at a time?

Granted his timing and shooting would be, at the very least, educational - but the dogfight itself would simply leave you yelling at the British to be more aggressive.