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Offline montag

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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2004, 12:03:37 AM »
Man has been blaming everything on God or Satan out of convenience since the beginning of time.

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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2004, 12:05:21 AM »
Even if she was not religious she still would be crazy. Bad people do bad things. Some just use religion as an excuse. Do not blame the religion. Blame the people's ignorance.

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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2004, 12:06:15 AM »
Chairboy, how do you even know that the people burned weren't the evil one's?

Man, this is almost too easy. It's pointless to cling to that dumb arse quote Chairboy...just move on and it will soon be forgotton :)

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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2004, 12:08:43 AM »
estimates of mass murders and concluded that 170 million people have been intentionally killed by government authorities in the 20th century.
While Hitler ranks high, the greatest mass murderer of all time is Joseph Stalin, our "ally" in WWII. During his regime, Rummel estimates that Stalin killed 43 million of his own people, including 33 million as a consequence of lethal forced labor in the "Gulag" Russian concentration camps.
Next is another communist government -- today our largest trading partner -- China. Chinese communists murdered about 30 million of their own people. At least a million died during Mao's "Cultural Revolution," and another 27 million died of famine, the results of his failed economic policies.


wow,,way higher than i thought!! 43million people!! ,you could put together all the killings in history and hardly make it close to a figure like that,,china killed 30million of its own people,,anti religous too,,,and anothere 27 million in famine<~~can you even get a figure close to 170million ,,i dout it,,lol
,,just goes to show,,people will use anything excuse to do bad things

1975 to 1979, the communist Pol Pot killed 2 million Cambodians -- -almost one third of the total population -- yet the western world sat idly by, watching and making token, formal complaints, yet doing nothing<~~ok,,more anti religous nuts,,can you explain 172 million deaths by anti religous leaders? sounds worse than any religous nut,,lol
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2004, 12:10:08 AM »
Religion, semantics, who really gives a flying ****?

Fact is - this dumb ***** thought God was talking to her to warn her the devil was near. She's ****ing nuts and was convinced to do something she dreamed up through a means she'd had beat into her mind early on. If it weren't a god, it'd be the ****ing pillsbury dough boy.
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2004, 12:21:20 AM »
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How does Mr Weinberg explain communism, an expressly secular ideology aimed helping masses of people but all it accomplished was the murder of hundresds of millions?

If you are going to accet Weinbergs statement you gotta explai that one...

BTW don't be stupid as to say that communism was a religion or a sort of religion, because then you could turn any idealism into a religion and the specific distinction and focus on religion as source of evil deeds would be beaningless.


Cmon chairboy use your gift of logic to explain this.  the greatest mass murders in history were explicity secular...

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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2004, 12:22:14 AM »
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lol, sorry but that's  bs.

More like "all humans are capable of doing evil things, religion or not."


Good people (by definition) don't do evil things unless they have a reason.  

How do you get a good person to do evil things?  It's simple -- you give him a cause, something he perceives to be bigger than humanity.  

Horrors have been committed for thousands of years in the name of religion.  Many of the horrors were actually done by good people, believing they were enforcing god's will.   Indeed, 9/11 comes to mind.

Communism is fact a religion in all but name.

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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2004, 12:27:52 AM »
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Good people (by definition) don't do evil things unless they have a reason.  



You want in too?

Good people (by definition) are good people that will not do evil. If a person does evil, that person is evil and always had been evil, otherwise he would remain good.

What "reason" could a "good" person have to do evil unless he was in fact evil to begin with?


You guys are fun:)



No logic here, but it's still fun.

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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2004, 12:28:32 AM »
It is impossible for the sain person to understand the actions of the insaine.

I feel pity for her as she Is WAY sick  and on top of losing her mind she has now lost her children by her own hand.
May the babies RIP.

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« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2004, 12:35:33 AM »
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How do you get a good person to do evil things?  It's simple -- you give him a cause, something he perceives to be bigger than humanity.  

 



What if you give the "good" person 1 billion dollars or perhapse some lsd and crystal meth? Maybe that "good" person could do evil then?

Are money and drugs "bigger than humanity" ? What about power, greed, love, lust, envy...??

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« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2004, 12:39:14 AM »
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What if you give the "good" person 1 billion dollars or perhapse some lsd and crystal meth? Maybe that "good" person could do evil then?

Are money and drugs "bigger than humanity" ? What about power, greed, love, lust, envy...??



Nuke the hardest thing for anyone to hold on to in this world is there integrity.
It should never be for sale but often is.
Honor is another thing that should never be on the bargain rack but yet some will sell it for pennys.

Stay true to yourself when others around you laugh at you make fun of you point fingers at you cause if you have your integrity and Honor intact

you tower over them as men.

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« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2004, 12:39:49 AM »
Damm Did i just say that?

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« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2004, 12:42:59 AM »
A "good" person can be corrupted by anything. Then again, it all depends on an individual's definition of what a "good" person is.
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« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2004, 12:47:22 AM »
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A "good" person can be corrupted by anything. Then again, it all depends on an individual's definition of what a "good" person is.
-SW


Really well Ive been tempted to "sell" out by money,poosy,drugs hell you name it.
I never did.

You know why?
Cause on my death bed as i am ready to die I will know I have lived the best I could have.

And thats all any of us can really do.

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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2004, 12:51:26 AM »
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Nuke the hardest thing for anyone to hold on to in this world is there integrity.
very well said,,and true,,a few times i allmost did some things that would of made life tuff,,,like my freinds girlfreind tried to take me to bed one night,,i turned her down after a long pause,,,trust me,,i almost did,,just because she is hot as hell,,but!! i new inside i would be throwing away one of my best long time freinds just for a night of fun,,plus nothing is worth loosing a freind who would do anything to help you,,so i guess you could say i did the good and right thing,,because in the long run,,years now down the road,,his ex is now a heavy crack addict,,proubly has aids,,she looks too skinny:( and is so mind fried now,,,her teeth are falling out,,just scary,,i just glad i did the right thing!! i would of lost a freind and gained nothing