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« on: March 31, 2004, 06:42:42 PM »
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He said she saw (then-14-month-old ) Aaron with a spear, then throwing a rock, then squeezing a frog and believed God was suggesting she should either stab, stone or strangle her children.
Laney at first resisted, but she felt she had to do what she perceived to be God's will to prove her faith, he said.Laney's family said she was never diagnosed with any mental disorder and that they never noticed any signs of illness or mood change before the killings.


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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2004, 07:11:49 PM »
It's very hard to understand how someone can be so disturbed as to murder their own children. Especially someone that claims to know God's love.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2004, 07:33:24 PM »
nut-bag

I'm pretty sure she wasn't suzie home maker before - i think her closest friends thought her somewhat odd if they are not nut-bags themselves
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2004, 07:41:10 PM »
"Without religion good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things.  To get good people to do evil things--that takes religion."
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2004, 07:44:34 PM »
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"Without religion good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things.  To get good people to do evil things--that takes religion."


lol, sorry but that's  bs.

More like "all humans are capable of doing evil things, religion or not."
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2004, 07:47:14 PM »
How do you explain the Crusades, Inquisition, Salem Witch burnings, ethnic cleansing by the serbs, etc etc etc?
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2004, 07:50:50 PM »
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How do you explain the Crusades, Inquisition, Salem Witch burnings, ethnic cleansing by the serbs, etc etc etc?


I don't explain them, but you said it requires religion to make "good"humans do evil, and that's bs.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2004, 07:51:29 PM »
No.....  



I said that it takes religion to get GOOD people to do evil things.  I question your reading comprehension skills.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2004, 07:58:19 PM »
And I question your entire logic comprehension skills. That first statement you quoted is so full of holes it isn't even funny.

You actually need me to break that quote down and show you how ignorant it is? Who's quote is that anyway?
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2004, 07:59:34 PM »
Are you implying that Jobe was a nut bag?



And who's to say that we're right and she's wrong?
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2004, 08:11:43 PM »
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And I question your entire logic comprehension skills. That first statement you quoted is so full of holes it isn't even funny.

You actually need me to break that quote down and show you how ignorant it is? Who's quote is that anyway?


It was Stephen Weinberg.  I would love to hear your criticism of the logic comprehension skills of a nobel prize laureate.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2004, 08:17:27 PM »
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And I question your entire logic comprehension skills. That first statement you quoted is so full of holes it isn't even funny.

You actually need me to break that quote down and show you how ignorant it is? Who's quote is that anyway?


I think you missed his point.  Evil things happen in the name of religion - the actors are otherwise good people
ex.  the inquisition, crusades, salem witches
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2004, 08:27:56 PM »
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It was Stephen Weinberg.  I would love to hear your criticism of the logic comprehension skills of a nobel prize laureate.


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"Without religion good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things. To get good people to do evil things--that takes religion."


For one, take a simple word substitution: substitute: money, love, lust, greed, mental illness, or any number of things for religion in that statement and you should begin to realise how ignorant it is. The statement assumes that it requires religion to get "good" people to do evil, right?

Now move on to how good or evil is even defined to begin with. What determines and defines good and evil? Isn't it all relative?

Can you give an example of a good person doing evil because of religion? Maybe you should think first before you mention crusades and such, because couldn't you just as well consider the crusaders "evil" people to begin with? Who ever said the crusaders were good people, and then did evil because of religion? Couldn't you say that ANYONE who does evil is an evil person? Does it make sense to you that an evil act could be done by a good person?


The statement does say that only religion can make a good person do evil, correct?

How do you know that murder is evil? What is evil? What is good?

The guy's a moron.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2004, 08:30:58 PM »
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I think you missed his point.  Evil things happen in the name of religion - the actors are otherwise good people
ex.  the inquisition, crusades, salem witches


I didn't miss the point at all. The statement clearly says that it requires religion to make a good person do evil.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2004, 08:37:35 PM »
Chairboy, ur an stunninghunk.
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