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Offline Karnak

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Fw-190d-9 and Spitfire Mk XIV?
« on: March 01, 2000, 03:02:00 PM »
Why are there only late war American aircraft?  The other participants didn't just stop developing aircraft because the U.S. got involved.  It wasn't "Oh, the United States is now here, well we'd just better cancel our own aircraft development because its useless compared to what the U.S. is doing.".

If the US jockeys get P-51Ds (mid-1944) and F4U Corsairs (1944), why are the British and German jockeys limited to 1942 tech?  The Fw-190d-9 (late 1944), Bf-109k-4 (late 1944), Spitfire Mk XIV(mid-1944) and Temest Mk V (1944) should be on the list as well.  What are they doing?  Spitfire Mk V (1941) and P-38J (1943).

I prefer flying British kites, but with the current selection its kind of silly, the US kites can engage and disengage pretty much at will.

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2000, 03:15:00 PM »
actually its P38L   1944 ?  



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Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2000, 03:27:00 PM »
You tell 'em Karnak

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2000, 03:45:00 PM »
'cuz the majority of spits in '44 were 9's.  The spit went through so many variants, it's to be unbelieved.  

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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2000, 03:58:00 PM »
The Mk XIV was the dominant "air-to-air" Spitfire from late '44 on.  As such, it represents the best choice for a late war Spitfire model.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2000, 03:59:00 PM »
Lets not forget the German Fw190-A8 (1944) and Bf109-G10, which is actually the same period and very similar in performance to the K4 you mention, which is late 44.

Japanese have got the N1K2, that is late 44 or early 45.

Oh and I wouldnt' mention the F4U-1 series as a late war bird. The -1D is a ground attack version of the -1A model, which was a 1943 varient. And the -1C while it came in 1945, was really just an experiment by the Navy.  The true late war F4U corsair was the -4 which we don't have yet either.

If anything the Russian planes are the most limited in their timeframe. Their best is the 1943 La-5.

But I definitely don't think that only the Americans get late war birds.

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2000, 05:09:00 PM »
AH needs one more Japanese and one more Russian fighter (+ the Typhoon and 202).  Then the art department should shutdown awhile to concentrate on other things.  No more planes!  Got enough for awhile!  

Of course this is just my opinion so don't be railin me on it!  Well ya can, but I won't give a rat's butt!!  

PS I would like to see a different terrain layout!  But regardless I still love it!!!  


OK  Ok  OK!  A German medium bomber would also be nice! Alright ya talked me into it. A Japanese or Russian bomber would be nice also.


Of course if ya do the Typhoon ya got to do the Tempest. Just natural!


OK!  one more. Because if ya got the Tempest ya gota have the FW190D.  Just to offset things ya see!

IF AH has the C202 and C205 ya gota put in the Hurri and P40.  For desert scenarios!  Not complete without desert scenarios!

But that's it! No more planes after that!  Then settle down and do airfield vechiles!  Jeeps and bowsers and Horse drawn carts!!

Yea!  That's it!!      HT! No more worries for you!  I got it all figured out.  Just let me know and I'll e-mail ya my entire plan!


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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2000, 07:56:00 PM »
That still leaves us Brits flying '42 tech.  Not very polite, eh chaps.

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2000, 08:02:00 PM »
GIVE ME MY XIV NOW ....

I want it, need it... 8^)

How abouts the LA-7  

Im sure they are on their way, eh HT?


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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2000, 01:32:00 AM »
I think we can wait a while on the spit XIV, got enough dweeb planes already  

Definately need: 190A-4/5, P47C/D, A6M2/3/5/8, ki61, ki44,Ki45,ki43, Lancaster(in work) ****F6F-3/5***** F4F, FM2, B-25C/H/J, He-111, Ju-88, Me-110C/G, Ju-87, G4M(?),
A-20, P-40B/E

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2000, 11:14:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by coyote:
I think we can wait a while on the spit XIV, got enough dweeb planes already  

Definately need: 190A-4/5, P47C/D, A6M2/3/5/8, ki61, ki44,Ki45,ki43, Lancaster(in work) ****F6F-3/5***** F4F, FM2, B-25C/H/J, He-111, Ju-88, Me-110C/G, Ju-87, G4M(?),
A-20, P-40B/E


A nice list, but add some EYE-talian and ROOSH-in planes, too..  

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Fw-190d-9 and Spitfire Mk XIV?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2000, 11:34:00 AM »
Swager -

I know you too well. Everyone else reading your post probably thinks that was an attempt  at humor. I know that's how your mind really works.

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2000, 01:15:00 PM »
If the Spit XIV is too frightening for everybody else why can't we at least have C versions of the V and IX. 4 20mm would give the spit IX more chance against planes that came out 2 years later than it.

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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2000, 02:00:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Nashwan:
If the Spit XIV is too frightening for everybody else why can't we at least have C versions of the V and IX. 4 20mm would give the spit IX more chance against planes that came out 2 years later than it.

Nashwan,

You giving up too easily. Just repeat after me, I WANT XIV, I WANT XIV
Coyote asking for many planes, but too many of them will be good for HA only - I can't see anyone flying Ju87, Me110 (or 410 for that matter) and P40 in regular arena. Wildcats propbably won't be too popular either. Now Spit MkXIV is different

Hmm did I mentioned I also want TA-152 before?

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2000, 02:29:00 PM »
I am not giving up on getting the XIV. It's just that I would like the C versions of all the SPitfires. Acording to a list of preserved Spitfies, nearly half the remaing Spit9s are C versions, and I know that nearly 2500 SpitVc were built, far more than the limited production, never-saw-combat F4U-1C.