APC Comparison - US Bradley vs UK Warrior

[Dowding]

I wondering which is considered the more capable machine. I know little about AFVs. They seem very similar.

Bradley:

Crew: 3 + 6
Armament: 1 x 25 mm cannon,
 1 x 7.62 mm MG (coaxial),
 2 x TOW ATGW launcher,
 2 x 4 smoke grenade dischargers
Ammunition: 900 x 25 mm,  
 2,200 x 7.62 mm,
 7 x TOW ATGW
Length: 6.55 m
Width: 3.61 m
Height (Turret Roof): 2.565 m
Height (Gunners Sight): 2.972 m
Power To Weight Ratio: 20.38 hp / tonne
Ground Clearance: 0.432 m
Weight (Combat): 22,940 kg
Weight (Empty): 19,005 kg
Engine: Cummins VTA-903T
 turbocharged 8-cylinder diesel
 developing 500 hp at 2,600 rpm
Maximum Road Speed: 66 km / hr
Maximum Water Speed: 7.2 km / hr
Maximum Range: 483 km
Fuel Capacity: 662 lit
Fording: Amphibious with preparation
Vertical Obstacle 0.914 m
Trench: 2.54 m
Gradient 60 %
Side Slope: 40 %
Armour: Classified
Armour Type: Aluminum / Laminate / Steel
NBC System: Yes
Night Vision: Yes (passive for commander, gunner & driver)

Warrior

Crew: 3 + 7
Armament: 1 x 30mm cannon,
 1 x 7.62mm MG,
 2 x 4 smoke grenade dischargers
Ammunition: 250 x 30 mm, 2,000 x 7.62 mm
Length: 6.34 m
Width: 3.034 m
Height (Turret Roof): 2.791 m
Height (Hull Roof): 1.93 m
Power To Weight Ratio: 21.4 bhp / tonne
Ground Clearance: 0.49 m
Weight (Combat): 25,700 kg
Engine: Perkins CV8 TCA V-8 diesel
 developing 550 hp at 2,300 rpm
Maximum Road Speed: 75 km / hr
Maximum Road Range: 660 km
Fuel Capacity: 770 lit
Fording: 1.3 m
Vertical Obstacle 0.75 m
Trench: 2.5 m
Gradient 60 %
Side Slope: 40 %
Armour: Classified
Armour Type: Aluminium (hull), steel (turret)
NBC System: Yes
Night Vision: Yes (passive for commander, gunner & driver)

The warrior is faster, has a more powerful engine and has a longer range - it also possesses a larger calibre cannon and carries more troops. It doesn't have the TOW capability and I'm not sure on the type of ammo for the main weapon. The warrior always looks bigger to me on TV, but it is actually smaller than the Bradley.

[ra]

TOW capability would seem to be an easy modification.

[Dowding]

Yes, according to another website which went into detail about the Warrior, it says TOW is available:

"TOW missile launchers are mounted on each side of the turret. The TOW wire guided anti-tank missile from Raytheon Missile Systems travels at 200m/s to a range of 3,750m. The vehicle has the capacity to carry four TOW missiles in the vehicle and two in the launchers."

[AKIron]

"It's the man, not the machine" and everyone knows that American troops are superior.

[GtoRA2]

Dowd,
 What one has better armor?

[Swoop]

*cough* bollocks *cough*

[MJHerman]

Originally posted by Swoop
*cough* bollocks *cough*

What he said

[_Schadenfreude_]

Bradley but it's a lot more expensive...

[rabbidrabbit]

At least some of your info on the Bradley is very dated.  They have had 600 hp turbo's installed since the early 90's.  It will do 45mph easily before the governor kicks in.  I don't know much about the warrior specifically but I know a bradley quite well.

Some other things to consider, fire control systems, and the A3 varient of the Bradley now in service has an integrated computer system that tells the crew positions of all forces as well as opfors.  They can recieve direct feeds from nearby aircraft as well as use the gps system to designate targets.  Don't discount technology.

BTW, what can you tell me about the 30mm on the Warrior?  The 25mm Bushmaster chaingun on the Bradley will pump out 200 rpm of selectable on the fly HE or APDS.  I have hit targets beyond 3k with the APDS without much trouble.  You can't just look and say "OH, the 30mm is 5 mm bigger, it must be a better weapon system!"  There are many other factors that come into play with a weapons system than just the caliber.


Oh yes.. the max slope deal is about what kind of slope it is supposed to go up without risk of rolling over.  I have gone up and down stuff in a Bradley that came as close as you can to tumbling both ways.  It can go 80 degrees straight up or down but trust me when I say It's really not the best idea if you care about details such as your life.

[101ABN]

what i can tell you about the Bradley is it does a good job on Iraqi ground forces!!!  

[Boroda]

[_Schadenfreude_]

Bmp3? Met some guys who used Bmp2's in Angola - they thought it was awesome

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Bmp3? Met some guys who used Bmp2's in Angola - they thought it was awesome

What's the smaller cannon mounted alongside the main barrel?

[rabbidrabbit]

BMP's are shorter but are basically lunch meat on a modern battlefield.

[Tarmac]

BMP-3 has a 30mm cannon coaxial to the main 100mm cannon.