Author Topic: Euros: EU Constitution - YES or NO ? (Read 1231 times)

beet1e · « **on:** April 19, 2004, 07:41:35 PM »

My vote is...

... a big fat

NO

I'll save the political rant till a few people have replied.

ra · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2004, 08:47:26 PM »

You don't get to vote on it, do you?

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2004, 09:07:11 PM »

Which country is dominating the EU right now?

Nash · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2004, 09:09:55 PM »

Why not?

ravells · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:57:26 AM »

Had a quick look at the first 10 or so Articles of the draft constitution - they are only repeating what is already European law anyway.

I'll have to read the whole thing before I decide, but I expect It'll be a curate's egg.

Ravs

Nashwan · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:59:06 AM »

No.

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You don't get to vote on it, do you?

We do now. Blair is in such a mess, he's been forced to agree to a referendum on the new constitution. What he'll probably do is schedule it after some of the other Euro countries have held theirs. That way, the constitution is dead before Britain votes on it, so a defeat isn't seen as a blow for Blair.

beet1e · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:01:18 AM »

Tony Blair is in the process of doing a U-turn on granting a referendum. But he's only likely to do it once he's safely re-elected in 2005. And that's because he knows it would not go his way. He wants a YES vote, but a poll shows that 16% intend to vote YES, 53% to vote NO.

Main country in EU now - probably Germany. Theirs is the biggest economy.

Dowding · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:13:24 AM »

takeda · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:28:54 AM »

Now that I have read about it, I would vote yes based on what I know.

Maybe you'll like the "exit clause" it will contain and vote yes so you can go away

. Perhaps that referendum should be just about that, you are falling behind already: no Euro and no Schengen, which are both extremely nice.

I'm preparing a Paris-London trip with my girlfriend, and had to remind myself of the fact that I won't have to show ID at the French border or change any money, but will have to do so when entering Britain.

I have been to Portugal, France ot Italy recently and, believe it or not, I felt much less "foreign" than in previous visits, which is somewhat cool.

Hortlund · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:45:58 AM »

No

(because I hate France and I would prefer to sink that nation into the ocean [after moving all its inhabitants to Spain] rather than join them in some weird EU-nation)

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:49:08 AM »

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Originally posted by ra
You don't get to vote on it, do you?

As of yesterday suddenly we do......the question is of course what exactly are we going to vote on and that question is going to be very, very carefully framed by the Labour Party to give it the answer it wants to hear.

bikekil · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:56:40 AM »

you know what? Germany supports Spain and praising the decision about moving the troops from iraq (that's what i've seen in the news today) not sure about France, but i have a strange feeling that they could think similar ( not sure, just a guess).

Now i'm asking - could we rename EU to EUoC ?

oh... Poland is not in EU(oC) yet....

oh... it was about the constitution... hmm... is it so important?

straffo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:57:30 AM »

Yes if ...

we can decapitate the Brit and swedish queen and some other.
we can pork other economy with the Euro
the Germano-French ring will rule all (one ring to rule them ...)
ze brit vill ztart to zpeak a real sprache
ve vill make regulations abut the vay you zleep in your bett !

How many of those against the EU constitution proposal have read the text ?
Zero or none ?

Hortlund · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:02:25 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo

How many of those against the EU constitution proposal have read the text ?
Zero or none ?

hehe funny

Have you read EC/EU regulations and/or laws Straffo?

How many do you think has read the EU constitution proposal?

I mean I had to read the Maastricht treaty and teh original EC constitution back in lawschool, and that was about as complicated and horribly...horribly...horribl y...disgustingly boooring as it possibly can be.

I dont think that anyone that doesnt directly work with it would want to read it, and I pity the poor sods who are forced to read it.

straffo · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:05:07 AM »

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Originally posted by bikekil
you know what? Germany supports Spain and praising the decision about moving the troops from iraq (that's what i've seen in the news today) not sure about France, but i have a strange feeling that they could think similar ( not sure, just a guess).

Now i'm asking - could we rename EU to EUoC ?

oh... Poland is not in EU(oC) yet....

oh... it was about the constitution... hmm... is it so important?

How long has the pole dealed with terrorism ?

You started only because the polish governement started to follow blindly the US only because they are brown noser.
I can't figure why we accepted a country like Poland in EU.

You will never act for the communauty as you're just following your interrest... I can wait to see when the Pole will start to whine for EU money to buy some US hardware.

They were dead bodies in Paris metro long before any of those neo-con discovered the source of terrorism in Iraq.