minor wound, resembling a fingernail scrape

[Gnslngr]

Originally posted by NUKE
Kerry is repulsive to me for many reasons. I will not say he didn't serve his country or deserve his medal, but I despise his basic morality and hypocrisy.

For one, he is an environmentalist who complains about gas prices and won't let us drill for oil in the US, yet he happens to own 5 mansions and a 50 million dollar private jet, which certainly use natural resources beyond what most Americans could ever imagine.

Nuke probably also agrees that kerry looks like a walking talking noodle.....the ca[t morgans is kickin in bigtime now

[Horn]

Originally posted by Gnslngr
reguardless he left after 5 months after recieveing 3 PHs scrathes from combat that he probably put himself in for.

THEN he had the balls to come home and lie befor congress about attrocities "HE HIMSELF COMMITED" then later recanted.  His recorded testimony was played for POWs still sitting in the Hanoi Hilton for psycological punishment.

Where do you get this stuff? Got a link? A shred of proof? Did you even read the testimony from the Winter Soldier "investigation"? Really. Put up or shutup.

h

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by strk
You pick - Bush loses on every issue

Youre right, he does.  But of course, thats only because you can pick which side of each issue you wanna go with.  Kerry's supported both at one time or another.

Besides, why am I picking anything?  Im fairly confident in Bush's chances to win the election - youre the one with your panties in a bunch.

Try and convince me that Kerry is a good candidate.  Personally, I dunno how you can trust anyone whose viewpoint shifts more frequently than the mood of a bleeding woman.

[Gnslngr]

Originally posted by Horn
Where do you get this stuff? Got a link? A shred of proof? Did you even read the testimony from the Winter Soldier "investigation"? Really. Put up or shutup.

h

well I'm intoxicated right now so no doin the whole google link thing just lookt hrought this tread for the facts

FACT:  Kerry spent roughly 5 months in nam. he recived 3 "wounds" and use the navy rule 3 hits and your out to recieve orders states side

FACT:  He did testify befor congress that he "saw and participated" in many atrocity's commited in vietnam.  I just saw on the news yesterday were he recanted his testimony and said it wasnt exactly true.

FACT:  I've seen many reports on the web saying his testimony was recorded and aired w/ hanoi janes regular brodcasts talking about how EVIL us troops were in nam


shred of proof yes...its all over just look for it.

winter soldier....what he said is a matter of public record...you look it up
awww  hell here's some links dont get your libral pink panties in a bunch

WASHINGTON — John Kerry (search) lived two Vietnam experiences -- one as a decorated Navy lieutenant, the other as a staunch protester of the war.


Returning from his tour of duty, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (search) in 1971, in which he claimed it was U.S. policy in Vietnam to carry out atrocities and war crimes.

A number of Vietnam veterans consider this testimony slanderous and say Kerry had to know it was false. They accuse Kerry of lying about fellow soldiers and officers to push a political agenda, and say his words dishonored comrades in arms at a time of war.

"He knew as an officer that those were lies. It never happened," said Vietnam veteran Carlton Sherwood. "He was principally responsible for cementing the image of Vietnam veterans (search) as drugged-out psychopaths who were totally unrestrained and who were a murderous hoard."

After Kerry's testimony, military and independent investigations found that many of the soldiers who told Kerry and others they committed such atrocities were either never in the service, never in Vietnam or couldn't provide more evidence of those horrific actions.

Kerry told Fox News this weekend that he has no regrets about his service or his protest.

"Now, if some veterans still can't accept that or they don't like the fact that I stood up and spoke my mind, I respect them, that is their choice," Kerry said.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113632,00.html

dont like that source



http://www.iht.com/articles/515928.html

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< < Back to Start of Article Use of 'atrocities' inappropriate, he says
 

 
MIAMI Senator John Kerry has distanced himself from contentious statements he made three decades ago after returning from the Vietnam War, saying that his long-ago use of the word "atrocities" to describe his and others' actions was inappropriate and "a little bit excessive."
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"If you wanted to ask me, 'Have you ever made mistakes in your life?' sure," Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said on Sunday in an hourlong interview on the NBC News program "Meet the Press."
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"I think some of the language that I used was a language that reflected an anger."
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The near-apology came after the host, Tim Russert, played videotape of Kerry, in 1971, acknowledging that he had participated in shooting in free-fire zones, burning villages and search-and-destroy missions.
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All those actions were "contrary to the laws of warfare" and the Geneva Conventions, he said then. Republicans have seized on those comments, and accusations about war crimes the young Kerry made in testimony before a Senate committee, to try to undercut his war credentials.
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"The words were honest," Kerry said Sunday, "but on the other hand, they were a little bit over the top."
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[Gnslngr]

oh I can keep going to "put up"

Monday, April 19, 2004 1:09 a.m. EDT
Kerry Inflates Combat Action in 'Meet the Press' Account

In his account to "Tour of Duty" author Douglas Brinkley, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry described his first encounter with enemy forces in Vietnam as an inconsequential skirmish that "hardly qualified as combat."

But on Sunday's "Meet the Press," Kerry's recollection of the episode was far more dramatic, with the top Democrat saying the confrontation not only was "frightening" but also was probably the worst combat his unit had experienced during the entire war.

Defending himself against charges that he put in for a Purple Heart for a relatively minor flesh wound after the Dec. 2, 1968 skirmish, Kerry told NBC newsman Tim Russert:

"We were in combat. We were in a very, very - probably one of the most frightening - if you ask anybody who was with me, the two guys who were with me, was probably the most frightening night that they had that they were in Vietnam."

But in his account to biograpger Brinkley, Kerry dismissed the altercation as "a minor skirmish."

"It was a half-assed action that hardly qualified as combat," he confessed, in a discrepancy first reported Sunday by FreeRepublic.com.

"I felt terribly seasoned after this minor skirmish," Kerry continued to Brinkley. "But since I couldn't put my finger on what we had really accomplished or on what had happened, it was difficult to feel satisfied."

"Meet the Press" moderator Tim Russert was apparently unaware of the contradiction and did not question Kerry on his newly dramatized account.

shall I keep going....I know I can.  SO I guess i've put up now huh....truth is this guys stance depends greatly on an opinion poll...

[Sixpence]

"It was a half-assed action that hardly qualified as combat," he confessed, in a discrepancy first reported Sunday by FreeRepublic.com. "

Uh huh.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by GScholz
Ask Republican Senator John McCain, Vietnam POW at the "Hanoi Hilton", what he thinks of John Kerry.

Don't you know? McCain was treated as an officer and stayed at the Ritz-Carlton and was fed caviar and fish cakes.

[mosgood]

Hey ! McCain said Kerry is a good guy.....

Let the McCain bashing begin!!!!!!

btw  he also says he doesnt agree with Kerrys position after the war and doesnt see eye to eye with him on issues BUT he is a good guy.   Of course it won't be seen this way but IMO this is one of the signs of character that I respect in McCain.