Prisoner Abuse

[Steve]

One wonders if the next most memoriable images of this war (which seems to be nothing but a war of choice and a complete disaster) in 20 years time will be those of the last US troops being airlifted from the embassy.

I bet you already have your fingers crossed.

[Pooh21]

Fingers crossed? he creams his pants thinking about it. Oh yeah and waiting for Unca Joe to come back and save us all.

[00Buck]

Originally posted by Steve
uhhhhh Wrong.

Steve: Here's my evidence, where's yours...

"Even Colin Powell, in a recent press conference, admitted that, contrary to his assertions at the United Nations, he had no "smoking gun" proof of a link between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda."Link to al-Qaeda

"Bin Laden Labels Saddam an Infidel"
the source

Pre-war Saddam and al-Qaeda were enemies. Now, thanks to the US invasion, al-Qaeda is happily fighting in Iraq against the US invaders.

[txmx]

I personaly if given the option would not spend one red cent in the middle east.

There is just no way them people are ever going to trust us and no way a democracy will ever work over there.

I mean my God man they been fighting and killing each other since Jesus was a baby what makes us think we can come in and change 2 thousand years worth of hatetred and fueding.

Is It starting to look like viet nam?
I dont know but if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck best to look where your stepping cause you might just step in duck chit!

The military once again is sent into battle with its hands tied:mad:

And It Is painfull to see all the fine young Americans coming home in those boxs.

I am just very tierd of the whole mess the death and the deceite.

Heck now with these soldiers pulling these stunts they got us (America) looking like a monkey humping a
football!!

Anyway im rambling  i will just say in closing.

Is it just me or would anyone else rather have seen that 100 billion  spent on the war used in  OH I dont know something like cancer research  education reform Health care for the elderly the list really go's on and on.

We have so much we need to fix in our own back yard before we try to rework someone elses.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Steve
I bet you already have your fingers crossed.

No not at all. Now that US is there I hope they see the job through to the end and that Iraq will have an elected government for better and secure future ahead.



...-Gixer

[txmx]

Originally posted by Gixer
No not at all. Now that US is there I hope they see the job through to the end and that Iraq will have an elected government for better and secure future ahead.



...-Gixer

thats as likely as Cindy Crawford saying she wants to have my babies LOL.

[Gixer]

Why would anyone now want to see the US mission in Iraq fail or for them to pull out and hope the UN picks up the pieces? The country would just fall further into anarchy and civil war costing even more civilian lives.  ???



...-Gixer

[txmx]

Originally posted by Gixer
Why would anyone now want to see the US mission in Iraq fail or for them to pull out and hope the UN picks up the pieces? The country would just fall further into anarchy and civil war costing even more civilian lives.  ???



...-Gixer

Read it again and go slow this time.
I did not say I wanted America to fail .
I just said that I think It unlikely that Iraq will ever be a peacefull democracy.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by txmx
Read it again and go slow this time.
I did not say I wanted America to fail .
I just said that I think It unlikely that Iraq will ever be a peacefull democracy.

I know, I was just replying again to Steve's comment which I found rather short sighted.





...-Gixer

[Steve]

I know, I was just replying again to Steve's comment which I found rather short sighted.

I already know that you are short sighted by your endless declarations about how the war in Iraq was the wrong thing to do.

Why would anyone now want to see the US mission in Iraq fail or for them to pull out and hope the UN picks up the pieces? The country would just fall further into anarchy and civil war costing even more civilian lives. ???

I dunno why, I don't think like you.  You seem to be a person who would take great satisfaction in the U.S. failure  based on things you've said in the past.  Your distaste for our country's actions and the foolsih things you say don't give me any glint that you are a reasoning, thoughtful person.

[hawker238]

*makes petty personal attack*

[Rolex]

Ah... the millenium-old 'anarchy and civil war if we leave' conjecture. After thousands of years, people are still falling for that. Amazing.

Steve: Wasn't trying the millenium-old 'take it out of context and use it' technique either... Hasn't almost all terrorism against the U.S. been perpetrated by Saudi, UAE and other nationalities though? Since the war against Iraq started, I suppose the combatants in Iraq would have to be called guerilla fighters. But, the semantics are not a big deal. If we get out soon, we'll have less people shooting at our troops sooner, is my point. The mission is over - Saddam is gone.

There will always be people who misunderstand the purpose of another country invading their country. And those who resent being occcupied, no matter how good the intentions of most of the occupiers. Every future unfortunate incident where someone feels unjustly wronged by the bad apples (and there are more bad apples out there) will fuel more resentment and breed  terrorists seeking revenge.

I think the U.S. has some bigger fish to fry than Iraq.

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by GScholz
I read in the paper today that the England woman may be court-marshalled. A jury of some sort would decide if she is court-marshalled, and if she is, and found guilty of the charges, her punishment would be a reprimand, reduction in pay, or a dishonourable discharge from the army. No prison terms ... and obviously no firing squad.

Yeah, that's a great discouragement, and really shows everyone how serious the army is about GC violations, PR, and the honor of the US Army and the USA itself.

Wow, just wow.

[txmx]

Originally posted by GScholz
"Of the two cases determined to have been criminal homicides, defense officials said, one was in Iraq, and has resulted in a dishonorable discharge but not the jailing of the American soldier responsible, whose actions were judged to have been provoked by rock-throwing Iraqi prisoners."

Yeah, "wow" indeed. Why wasn't this soldier executed? I do believe the punishment of his crime in wartime (and peacetime in some US states) is death.

LOL we dont kill our own soldiers ! Thats why why we win wars.

[FBRaptor]

Scholtz........HUH?????????????????????????