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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2004, 12:47:02 PM »
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Actually, I never heard or saw a TV show saying all Russians were criminals, or that you ate babies, but maybe you were hiding something.  Every trip I have made to the fromer SU, I found most people to be very nice, hospitable, and good all around people.  With the exception of our "military escort" who were corrupt and sadistic bastards, the people there were great.  The only "bad" thing I ever heard about the USSR was the obvious, your government was corrupt, did not believe in human rights, and generally oppressed the masses so that a few could live in luxury.


This can be said about any government. I have told you - I don't like our militia, and I think that the only way to fight the situation is do decimate it, and hang bastards on street lamp posts :mad:
 
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The only "anti-Russian" film I ever saw was Red Dawn, and that was so far fetched I laughed.  Personally the only police I saw in my visits drove around in Black Zil's and looked like police.  Maybe they had there RPG's and RPK's hidden. LOL


Here only big brass-hats drive around in black ZILs, but they prefer Mercedes-Benz now... Militia cars are now white-blue...
 
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So, 25 people act like animals, and now the whole of the American Army is sadistic torturers...  come on Boroda, your anti-US goggles are blinding you.  It is wrong of those few, but they will be punished, you can be very sure of that.  They (the soldiers who did this) gave the US Army a black eye, but you can be sure they will pay severely, especially with the president's attention fixed on them.  


I hope they will be punished, but I remember what happned to the company commander who slaughtered Song Mi. He was sentenced to 3 years in jail and released almost immediately after trial. No one of his soldiers who killed several hundreed people was punished.

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 As for torture and carnage wrecked on a population, need we remind you of the USSr's policies in Afganistan???  I seem to remeber bombs in toys distributed amongst the Afgani population by your Army that maimed and killed thousands of CHILDREN.  Not to mention your wonderous propesity for "electrically" interogating prisoners.


Bombs in toys?! Are you nuts? Watched too mant Rambo-3 or what?!

Trap-bombs in toys were invented by "freedom-fighters" that you supported. Also - bombs in tape-recorders, thermoses, other goods Soviet soldiers were buying or finding in "rebels" bases. Don't tell me it was made by Soviets. I have many friends who served there and saw it.

It seems to me it's a nature of your propaganda: first teach terrorists to fit bombs into toys and then accuse Russians. People will believe everything you say about Russian atrocities.

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 I have someone who would love to meet you, he is a close friend who lives in the states, but had been captured by your forces over there.  He has false teeth, because he crushed his while be electrocuted by Russian Army personnel who were questioning him.  So don't lecture US about atrocities, when you could write a book on it from your recent history.


Ah, a mercenary? He should be thankfull he got out of there alive. Foreigners caught with arms can be executed immediately as mercenaries according to all the conventions. Literally - mercenaries are not humans, they are dangerous animals.

Did Soviet officers who questioned him make pictures? I bet he'll say they did. If he's the person who told you about Soviet bombs in toys - everything else he says is a lie.
 
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Well I guess a bullet in the base of the skull would definitely keep your prison population down... ask Stalin's former regime, they perfected the art.


Did you see the statistics of death penalies during Stalin's times? You'll be surprised. I wonder how it compares to the US and Western statistics at the same time...
 
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I do, and I know more than 65% of the recent Iraqui poll does too.  I am sure if you talked to less Baathists, and more Suni Muslims and Kurds who were severly oppressed, you might find the number is quite high.  But you are morethan welcome to listen to liberally biased press, it is guaranteed to make you look like the stooge you look like now.


The purpose of all public opinion polls is to manipulate public opinion.

The purpose of all public opinion polls performed by occupation forces is to justify the occupation.

Sorry, but this things are obvious....
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2004, 12:47:27 PM »
Irony is inviting the press into Abu Gharib jail where allegations of human rights abuses is being investigated then throwing the press out when the detainees start talking to them, citing press coverage as a violation of the detainees human rights.

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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2004, 12:50:39 PM »
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  Comedy gold Boroda!!!!  


Damn, I may have left AH, but I could NEVAR leave this BBS...too much entertainment!:lol

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Rip, seriously. The "translation" is made in such a way that the whole letter looks absolutely distorted. I hope you believe in my Russian reading skills ;)

It's not my fault that any source you bring here is a propaganda lie. Like if I'll start accusing you of hanging black people and keeping poor Indians in reservations.

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2004, 12:53:28 PM »
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eerrr....ya, WTF?


You meant that burning prisoners and hanging the bodies in public places could be better? Like Germans did in Belorussian villages? To scare people so they'll not support partisans?...

:rolleyes:

25 people in the whole American army you say?.... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2004, 01:07:25 PM »
Baroda can't be this stupid..  Please just set teh hook bud.. u got em..

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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2004, 01:09:35 PM »
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Baroda can't be this stupid..  Please just set teh hook bud.. u got em..


:(  but true...

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2004, 01:14:11 PM »
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You meant that burning prisoners and hanging the bodies in public places could be better? Like Germans did in Belorussian villages? To scare people so they'll not support partisans?...


Actually the germans did no such things, it all russuian revisionist propaganda lies.  The SS is especially misreprsented in this regard as few people really know that the SS stood for "Super Sweet"  and they were exactly like that to russian people who loved them and their behavior.

Arent you glad boroda that now you know the real facts and nt just th awful lies given to you by biased soviet prpagandists?

:rolleyes:

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2004, 01:20:14 PM »
I remember going through USAF winter survival at Fairchild AFB in Jan 75. They put bags over our heads and stripped us naked. We were in unheated cells and it was pretty dang cold out.

I guess I was "tortured", eh?

Anyone know of a good lawyer? I'd like to sure for $300 million for pain and suffering from "torture".

Yeah, the deal in Iraq was way wrong. Yeah, those responsible should be punished.

But "torture"? Puhleez. Humiliation, to be sure; "torture"?... time for a reality check, dudez.

I'll get all worked up  and teary-eyed about it when I see some of the "peaceful" Islamic leaders crying for investigations into what their co-religionists have done and are still doing in Iraq.

But of course I won't be holding my breath while waiting.
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2004, 01:27:34 PM »
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Actually the germans did no such things, it all russuian revisionist propaganda lies.  The SS is especially misreprsented in this regard as few people really know that the SS stood for "Super Sweet"  and they were exactly like that to russian people who loved them and their behavior.

Arent you glad boroda that now you know the real facts and nt just th awful lies given to you by biased soviet prpagandists?

:rolleyes:


Is this the official post-Yugoslavian Croatian version?

I hope you are not writing for American history books.

Sorry, I think I misunderstood Monk's post. Looks like I made a common mistake of first writing and then thinnking :( Did he mean that Americans who were hanged from the bridge by Iraqi crowd?

Charred bodies hanging from bridges make me remember nazi atrocities first. Sorry.

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2004, 01:28:19 PM »
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Yeah, the deal in Iraq was way wrong. Yeah, those responsible should be punished.

But "torture"? Puhleez. Humiliation, to be sure; "torture"?... time for a reality check, dudez.

I'll get all worked up  and teary-eyed about it when I see some of the "peaceful" Islamic leaders crying for investigations into what their co-religionists have done and are still doing in Iraq.

But of course I won't be holding my breath while waiting.


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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2004, 01:29:44 PM »
Anyone ever notice that when Boroda starts looking like a fool in a thread, suddenly "something is lost in translation" excuse comes out?  Ohhh, the Soviet bloc mentality, arrogance at its finest.

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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2004, 01:56:49 PM »
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Anyone ever notice that when Boroda starts looking like a fool in a thread, suddenly "something is lost in translation" excuse comes out?  Ohhh, the Soviet bloc mentality, arrogance at its finest.


Thats BS RIp.. Boroda is doing just fine.. Its not his fault you are ignorant and cannot speak/translate russian. He was attempting to help you..Your just too blind from hate to recognize it...


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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2004, 02:01:13 PM »
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Anyone ever notice that when Boroda starts looking like a fool in a thread, suddenly "something is lost in translation" excuse comes out?  Ohhh, the Soviet bloc mentality, arrogance at its finest.


Thanks.

I think it's obvious that for us "charred bodies hanging from bridges" means nazis, while for you it means poor occupants killed by a barbaric mob. Nothing was "lost in translation", it's cultural, not lingual misunderstanding.

Please, remind me, when did I use this "excuse" before?

It's cultural difference. For Soviet people occupants taking pictures of people they torture and posing in front of them means nazis. It is a first thing that comes in mind. That's why people here are so angry about that "15 people from the whole American army".

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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2004, 02:04:16 PM »
Toad, please define "torture".

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2004, 02:37:41 PM »
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I wondered a similar thing about the whole "torture" of the prisoners thing.

If any of those captive insurgents had been "guests" of Sadaam in an Iraqi prison where torture was a daily thing they must have been thinking "Is this all they are going to do to us?  What a bunch of pansies."


Just quoting myself, because it backs up my opinion of what Toad said.
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