Originally posted by moot
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FWIW, I dunno about this, but I found it on what looks like a rw-libertarian site, not a lefty hang out. I've watched the longer video (see below), and sure enough the clock jumps, and the page turning thing is weird. I dunno, I am just sick of it all. I guess somewhere all this **** must have been anticipated. I guess PNACs vision of Pax Americana must have been considered worth all this mess. The view from behind their eyes must be something to see. Anyways, here's the **** I found.
Kind of like that conspiracy report that claimed a cruise missile hit the Pentagon. Seems some just have to believe it to be anything but what it appears and will try to fit in explainations of 'facts' and 'evidence' to support their theory.
1) extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis Gee, could it possibly be that a small group of fanatical Iraqis could be so pissed to want revenge in the only way they know how? Look at what happened in Chechnya in how some Russian soldiers were executed. Danial Pearle also.
2) CNN poll question: "Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?" Bush has been reported to be struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite "national
security" issues for witholding additional materials. Seeing how Berg was killed because of those reports of prisoner abuse, it is understandable how Bush would want to keep even worse photos out of the public's eye. Remember, the govt. doesn't even want our viewing of coffins and body bags. Bad for the public to see to contiinue popular support for any war. Sometimes a picture can be far more damaging than the alleged acts portrayed that the public ceases to support the war.
3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody. That was some time ago. He was last seen on his own in a hotel before he was abducted.
4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue
(compare with pictures at Guantanamo). I did, so should you. They are not even remotely similar. The silk-looking pajama outfit Berg was wearing was not a jumpsuit.
5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to change). See above.
6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost motionless Berg on floor as head cut off. He was "motionless" while his head was being cut off because of:
A) Shock, B) He had his hands bound behind him, C) One of his killers was kneeling on him and holding him down.
7) Audio clearly dubbed in. Didn't sound like it, more poor quality recording based on poor equipment. Only a camera mounted mic most likely.
8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what page he's on? Look again. Looks like he was ending up on different pages. It was hard to tell, but he was not ending up reading from the same side through his whole speech.
9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin. LOL, most Iraqis have rather light to medium colored skin. No surprise there.
10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms. LOL, what is the difference. Perhaps you can show what an Iraqi fanatical body posture and mannerisms are supposed to look like.
11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible blood on it. The tape doesn't show how the cutting began. If an initial cut is made deep and large enough, there usually wouldn't be the spurting and spraying of blood one would think. Oh, there was a pool of blood on the floor where Berg was after the beheading.
12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip. See above answer to #6
13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open. That's important how?
14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly dubbed in. That scream sounded to be from Berg. No, it was not "clearly dubbed in."
15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by family. I vaguely remember Daniel Pearle also giving personal info sometime before he was executed also.
Seems these killers want to use terror to try and win their war. By putting a face, name, and personality on their victims, they want it to hit home.
I believe that Berg believed he was not going to be killed. Up to that point he was probably treated decently (which explains his being somewhat seemingly relaxed in his interview). He was probably lied to about his having to be tied up in front of the camera to make sure he didn't escape. They probably used the assault rifle as a sign to him to keep still and quiet in front of the camera for the 'speech'. Notice that the large knife was hidden from view from everyone, esp Berg.
Up until that speech, he was probably lied to about his immediate future.
Sorry about my being a bit morbid and matter of fact about my answers, but these conspiracy people sometimes drive me nuts.
