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« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2004, 01:28:45 AM »
You want it more than me Nuke. You go first. :)

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« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2004, 01:29:43 AM »
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I want to know what exactly is bad about the US action in Iraq? Can somone point out the negative aspects of the war in Iraq?


Are you kidding?  How about thousands of dead and wounded Iraqis.


Secondly.

"If ousting Hussein does nothing more than strike fear into every despotic dictator, as it apprarently has in at least two, then imo, mission accomplished."

Well, I know one isn't Kadaffi, he's been trying to make friends with the west of years now.  I don't know who the other is, unless you mean the Syrians.  If I was a dictator I would be breathing a sigh of relief right now.  Bush pissed away an amazing amount of support for the US over this.  Do you honestly think that the US people, your Congress and the international community would give any support what-so-ever to another war?  I don't think so.
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« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2004, 01:31:01 AM »
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Are you kidding?  How about thousands of dead and wounded Iraqis.


Secondly.

"If ousting Hussein does nothing more than strike fear into every despotic dictator, as it apprarently has in at least two, then imo, mission accomplished."

Well, I know one is Kadaffi, he's been trying to make friends with the west of years now.  I don't know who the other is, unless you mean the Syrians.  If I was a dictator I would be breathing a sigh of relief right now.  Bush pissed away an amazing amount of support for the US over this.  Do you honestly think that the US people, your Congress and the international community would give any support what-so-ever to another war?  I don't think so.


compaired to 400k Iraqis killed by Saddam? You are kidding, right?

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« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2004, 01:33:03 AM »
I'm gonna totally mangle another analogy or metaphor or, damn,  I mangled the thing I am mangling.

How does it go? Better the devil you know than the devil you don't?

Fuggit, something like that. And it answers your question.

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« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2004, 01:39:23 AM »
no one can make a rational argument that states the invasion of Iraq was a bad event. I want someone to list the things they feel are bad about the invasion of Iraq.

I'ts a simple question

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« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2004, 01:40:28 AM »
Folks are dying for nothing.

Hows that?

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« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2004, 01:42:55 AM »
Folks in Iraq under Saddam where dying for nothing.

List the bad things about the invasion of Iraq.


Nash, you are a smart guy.... I would think you could realise your lack of a response might tell you something

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« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2004, 01:49:23 AM »
Jesus Nuke....

You lot want to save the poor wittle Iraqis while at the same time condemn their backwards arses for not speaking up against beheadings.

IT'S shreckING BEDLAM OVER THERE. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR OVER A CENTURY.

You gotta be all hopped up on goofballs to think yer gonna wander into it and make it all cozy.

Cuz you aint. Cuz you can't.

You had 'em contained. shreck.

At least for the most part it's what everyone believed. But now the veil is comin' down harsh off of that little fantasy. Bahhh wtg.

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« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2004, 01:51:20 AM »
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Jesus Nuke....

You lot want to, at the same time, save the poor wittle Iraqis while at the same time condemn their backwards arses for not speaking up against beheadings.

IT'S shreckING BEDLAM OVER THERE. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR OVER A CENTURY.

You gotta be all hopped up on goofballs to think yer gonna wander into it and make it all cozy.

Cuz you aint. Cuz you can't.

You had 'em contained. shreck.

At least for the most part it's what everyone believed. But now the veil is comin' down harsh off of that little fantasy.


well I got you upset, but I didn't get you to list what you feel is bad about the invasion of Iraq.

p.s. I love you anyway

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« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2004, 01:53:43 AM »
p.s. my IQ is sorta high, like I am sure your's is......:aok

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« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2004, 02:38:42 AM »
Nuke, I listed two things.  Neat trick just ignoring one but I don't think anyone is going to buy it.

As to my first point.

"compaired to 400k Iraqis killed by Saddam?"

Because SH killed 400K the US killing over 10K (and that's just civilians) is a fine?

Let me make this simple for you.  Do you think that the US military is a good thing or a bad thing, no equivocation please.


Dare I bring up the fact that an estimated 1,000,000 Iraqis died as a result of poor drinking water during the 90's?  The reason that they had poor drinking water is because during the Gulf War the US government decided to destroy Iraqi electrical power generation infrastructure, knowing that this would lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.  When it comes to killing Iraqis the US makes SH look like an amature.


Now a third point.  The war has cost the US well over $100,000,000,000.  Money that the US doesn't have.

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« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2004, 02:44:21 AM »
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The myth of Muslim silence with regards to the Berg murder was destroyed in the last thread on this topic.  Though I expect nothing less from the average, ignorant O'Club poster, what is Powell's excuse for this grandstanding?


Mr Powell obviously needs a link to the Ah BBS!!

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« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2004, 09:53:17 AM »
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However right it is for some cleric to denounce some kid's death over there, it's fantasy-land.


I don't think option 4 is an option. If it happens, that's the end of the US as a world power. Now, being at heart an isolationist, that'd actually be fine by me. I just think even the most foolish of the pols in DC realize that and won't accept it.

So, it's fantasy-land to expect them to act like responsible leaders of their followers?

Wonder where that leads?
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« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2004, 09:55:07 AM »
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Well, I know one isn't Kadaffi, he's been trying to make friends with the west of years now.


Yah, shure. I love this one. Guess he wasn't trying REAL hard though.
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« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2004, 09:58:05 AM »
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US government decided to destroy Iraqi electrical power generation infrastructure, knowing that this would lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.  

 


Mainly they destroyed it knowing it would save a lot of Coalition troopers' lives. No electricity, no "modern warfare capability" for the Iraqis. The C3 function goes away. It's this war thing, where you try to save your soldiers' lives.

Secondly, this is purest BS:

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When it comes to killing Iraqis the US makes SH look like an amature.


What's worse is you know it too and posted it anyway.
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