America catches up to the modern world (slowly)

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by AKIron
I never said it wasn't obvious, only entertaining.

So, you're equating homosexuality with infertility? No one is in danger of being persuaded to become or exercise their infertility. You are making a big assumption that I don't want homosexuals to marry. Never said or implied that. I am saying that revulsion of homosexuality may be a species survival trait that many of us feel not because of prejudice based on ignorance but rather because it is essential to the propogation of our species.

No one is being persuaded to become homosexual either. sheesh!

[AKIron]

Originally posted by midnight Target
No one is being persuaded to become homosexual either. sheesh!

There are many that would refrain (and have in less tolerant times) from the practice of homosexuality if it were not being accepted as normal behavior.

[Thud]

Originally posted by AKIron
I knew your answers, see my earlier post. It is of course possible to go against your nature, hence homosexuality and the ridiculing of those that find it repugnant.

All very well but in the meantime (in the posts between the one you refer to and this one) you have utterly failed to produce a single valid argument pointing towards another ground for being repulsed by gays other than the hardly flattering ones we posted. Does say something about your case, as it does about ours...

[lazs2]

duedal... what are you talking about?  It is not about me so much as it is about what is right and wrong..   and what is logical.   If I, or society, sees a benifiet in raising families then  we should extort  less of their money from them.  There is no benifiet to gay marriage for me or society so why bother to lessen their burden at my expense.

MT.. the marriage penalty imay or may not exist... it depends on your combined income levels.   There is health care issues and insurance issues that would drive up my/societies costs.

Now... As I said... there is no point in talking about gay marriage until we decide what we want from the contract...   The benifiets of marriage by the state should be spelled out and then society can decide  which types of marrige they are willing to foot the bill for.

But... it is far more complex than merely a "moral" issue of not recognizing unions for moral purposes.

lazs

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by AKIron
There are many that would refrain (and have in less tolerant times) from the practice of homosexuality if it were not being accepted as normal behavior.

Bull****.

They just hid it from the masses that would treat them like dirt, or worse.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Bull****.

They just hid it from the masses that would treat them like dirt, or worse.

You are obviously an expert in this area as I am not. Since I really don't care if two men want to get married I'll bow out of this conversation.

Still, I'm wondering that if there were not homosexual activity would we still be facing an epidemic of AIDS killing possibly millions?

[AKIron]

Originally posted by SOB
If you can't get beyond your primal urges, I feel sorry for you.  I can't speak for everyone who feels same sex marriage should be legal, but I am repulsed by the thought of two dudes doing the nasty.  However, I can get beyond that and understand that just because it's not for me, that doesn't mean it's wrong.

I don't feel sorry for you though, as I don't believe for a second that you can't get beyond your primal urges.  You choose to dislike homosexuals and you choose to be against same sex marriage.  That makes me think a little less of you, but I'm sure you're still a decent person.

When we all get beyond our primal urges our species will cease to exist within a generation. I've had homo friends, I am repulsed by homosexuality but not necessarily by the person.

OK, said I'd go, cyas.

[SOB]

Originally posted by AKIron
Still, I'm wondering that if there were not homosexual activity would we still be facing an epidemic of AIDS killing possibly millions?

LOL, brilliant.

[SOB]

Originally posted by AKIron
When we all get beyond our primal urges our species will cease to exist within a generation. I've had homo friends, I am repulsed by homosexuality but not necessarily by the person.

OK, said I'd go, cyas.

Sorry, deleted this post...was at the end of page 4 when I replied and missed there was a page 5, so my post wasn't really in context anymore.

After reading further on page 5, I do understand what you're saying about being naturally repulsed by homosexual acts.  While I've never seen it, I don't doubt I would be repulsed by it (well, unless it was women, I've seen these videos, umm, on the Intardnet, and these chicks were....err, umm, what was I saying?).

However, me being repulsed by two dudes doing the nasty doesn't make the act wrong or immoral.  And it certainly doesn't mean they shouldn't have the option to choose their spouse and have their union legally recognized.

[Yeager]

sometimes your gut instinct is telling you something that should really be understood and appreciated.  If it is dusgusting to see and disgusting to imagine hearing-feeling-smelling-doing and just plain repulsive to the vast majority of properly functioning carbon units then perhaps that instinct is appropriate and should be honored by society as moral and appropiate expectation within the culture.

now HTAS GHEY!!!!!

[SOB]

I also think lutefisk is disgusting and the thought of watching someone eating it turns my stomach, but that doesn't mean I should shun Norwegians . . . does it?

[Thud]

Originally posted by AKIron
Still, I'm wondering that if there were not homosexual activity would we still be facing an epidemic of AIDS killing possibly millions?

LOL, sure like to make a silent and gracious exit don't you? Make sure to weigh them after you catch 'em...

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by AKIron
You are obviously an expert in this area as I am not. Since I really don't care if two men want to get married I'll bow out of this conversation.

Still, I'm wondering that if there were not homosexual activity would we still be facing an epidemic of AIDS killing possibly millions?

While choosing to ignore the first part of your post I will address the second. I think you will find that many more people in the world have been infected with HIV through heterosexual contact than through homosexual contact. Surprisingly enough, one of the safest groups in terms of HIV would be lesbians.

I guess this would mean that god only hates gay men and heterosexual africans.

[Eagler]

GROUP HUG!!!

MT, THUD and SOB please keep ur hands above the waist ... LOL

[midnight Target]

Seems to be only one of us in this thread with man-hug pics at their fingertips.  

And all those guys have way more hair than I do.