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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2000, 01:26:00 PM »
I'm with gordo.

I'll add that I don't agree with seperate channels, but I don't think wobble is as far off in right field as some elude too. At least the guy has balls enough to say what he thinks, not feel out the crowd, and then give an opinion based on that as some seem to have done here.

 

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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2000, 05:07:00 PM »
I don't think anyone was flaming him, just adding a little heat.  

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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2000, 08:36:00 AM »
That's B.S.  No rules show that English is the mandantory language!

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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2000, 09:58:00 AM »
ever read those conversations closely? they're actually kinda funny if you don't understand the language, it looks like this:

yada yada yada el n1k. yada yada yada el goon. yada yada yada el parachuto. yada yada yada le creamo! aye yi yi  


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« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2000, 10:07:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by mrfish:
ever read those conversations closely? they're actually kinda funny if you don't understand the language, it looks like this:

yada yada yada el n1k. yada yada yada el goon. yada yada yada el parachuto. yada yada yada le creamo! aye yi yi  


ROFLOL !

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« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2000, 10:14:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by mrfish:
ever read those conversations closely? they're actually kinda funny if you don't understand the language, it looks like this:

yada yada yada el n1k. yada yada yada el goon. yada yada yada el parachuto. yada yada yada le creamo! aye yi yi  



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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2000, 11:28:00 AM »
Jesus people - what the hell are you saying? That being polite is a non-PC, racist, bigoted etc? What kind of c**p is that?

It is simply impolite to speak in a group of people using a language no-one else understands. There's absolutely nothing "American" in it, nothing racist or any other stuff mentioned by some in this thread.

Channel 1 is not an English speaking channel - why should it be? It's a common channel, for everyone to use.

It's just so happens that the majority of people on the net have common language - English. You want yourself understood - speak English (spot the difference btw - it's English, not American. As spoken in lots of countries around the world by millions of people.

"Intolerance"? No pal, the topic should be "ignorance", "lack of decent help file that explains the basic rules", "let's blaim Americans for everything - everyone else seems to be doing it, why not add some more?"

Those Japaneese guys may have been new to AH and <S> to them for understanding the situation and moving their conversation to a private channel. The guy who asked them could probably have asked in a nicer manner and in private. Many don't realise who reads what they type anyway...

Spanish and other oscenities "bravely" typed behind the safety of one's screen, obviously add so much to "cultural" and "multinational" aspects of AH... Sad.

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« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2000, 12:06:00 PM »
Very funny stuff Mr. fish!  

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« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2000, 02:48:00 PM »
Calm down lynx.  

Who said anything about 'blaming Americans'? Most of the people who have posted here are American, for crissakes.

The point of my original post was that the guy in question complained about 'chatter' in Japanese, but I've never heard him complain about chatter in English. I personally couldn't see why it is a problem if other languages are written in AH.

 
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It is simply impolite to speak in a group of people using a language no-one else understands.

Oh sure, if we are all sat in a circle taking afternoon tea.   But we're not, we're all engaged in doing something else, i.e. playing the game. I don't consider it impolite in the slightest.

 
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Spanish and other oscenities "bravely" typed behind the safety of one's screen, obviously add so much to "cultural" and "multinational" aspects of AH... Sad.

Eh? What are you talking about, pal?

 
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"lack of decent help file that explains the basic rules"

I'm sorry, have I missed something? I know there are conventions for playing the game, but I didn't think one of them was that 'English must be written at all times'. Who would want such a stupid rule like that anyway?

BTW, the Japanese blokes weren't newbies either.

 
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You want yourself understood - speak English...

I'm sure they knew that, as do the other non-English speaking pilots. But maybe, just maybe, they were just chatting, and such, their comments would have been largely irrelevant to the rest of us on. Why should two guys speak in broken English to each other, when they have a common language through which they could communicate in a fraction of the time?

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« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2000, 02:54:00 PM »
"yada yada yada el n1k. yada yada yada el goon. yada yada yada el parachuto. yada yada yada le creamo! aye yi yi  "

Lol MrFish  

 but would you be so kind and take that post and put it up on a different part f the UBB board. this is the *English Only*  Aces High General Discussion" forumn and it is most innappropriate for it to be here.

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« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2000, 03:20:00 PM »
Se pueden ir todos a cagarse en su madre y yo hablo el maldito idioma que me  salga de la jodona gana !  That's it

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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2000, 12:21:00 PM »
Begeerite:  

Lynx:
I never type obcenities at any time.
Except maybe "Die you opportunist <blank>"
or "Die, you Dog !"
That is only when I am joking with someone I have "flown" with.

In the majority of cases, I think that is what happens. Jokes not serious insults.

Besides..If someone wanted to insult someone else, would it not "help" if they understood ?

In regards to the topic:
If I have to talk to a friend, who has difficulty translating,  while flying for different "countries", why should I not be polite and talk to him in his native tongue ?


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« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2000, 03:34:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by mrfish:
ever read those conversations closely? they're actually kinda funny if you don't understand the language, it looks like this:

yada yada yada el n1k. yada yada yada el goon. yada yada yada el parachuto. yada yada yada le creamo! aye yi yi  


LOL! I think these kind of posts are enough to support different languages on ch 1.  

I am spanish, and quite fluent in English. I try to speak English on ch 1 as much as I can. Sometimes It is just impossible. You have a new guy who can not speak english asking in ch 1 how does he take off. How do you explain him anything, but in his own language?.

I think is a matter of tolerance. Being that on the side of both, on the only English talking people, I can't see much of a problem seeing some text not in English, and on the other language talking people, moving to another channel if chatting takes too long/deep. Banning? Splitting channels? no, thanks.

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« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2000, 03:53:00 AM »
Frankly, I don't care of the non-english cha1 users it add to the exotism of the comunauty and it help me to admit that we don't all speak french on earth  

BTW writing Japanese in the ch1 is not the strangest experience I've got ...
Last sunday I've tunned RW to my standard squad channel ... as usual ...but not at an usual time ... and if reading Japanese is strange HEARING Japanese it's quite disturbing   Muhahah  

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« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2000, 09:38:00 AM »
Well well well.. quite an interesting thread this has become.. And I'm happy to see I'm not alone with my opinnion here.
Its just that I've spent endless hours in different multi-national enviroments and for me its absolutely clear that people should TRY to keep the talk in public channels understandable. I'm not saying it should be the law of AH (although it WAS the law on my channels back then, and the policy was accepted by everyone joining the channel - however thats different since irc is free for everyone.)
In Aces High the situation is very different due to the fact that we all are paying customers and no-one of us has the right to say what the other one should do. I just have to thank players like Wobble for their perspective on this matter, stressing the practical. It is obvious anyhow that most of the people chatting with strange languages on the main channel are doing it simply because theyre ignorant of the fact that the majority of the other players would prefer to understand what theyre saying on their screens. For me the attitude of many posters here seems to be the one of a 'collective congience' with a little halo above their heads.. The attitude is to damn all actions against minorities even when its for the benefit of the whole community.
To make the long whine short, everyone's free to talk any language on ch1 as far as I care.. Just use YOUR REASON and try to use a language which most others can understand as often as possible - it keeps the game more fun for everyone. And I apologize if I hurt anyones feelings saying so, feel free to insult me in any language that I don't understand.   Btw: I think Japanese language is cool.. I'm a great fan of Japanese movies.. I reckommend everyone to check out the makings of 'Beat' Takeshi Kitano for example.. Now thats attitude for ya  

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