Intolerance

[Westy]

 I'm not on any bandwagon,  I not pandering to any crowd and I certainly have no halo surrounding my head but for me the fact is the message conveyed  in your posts, as well as those by Wobble, is disgusting and I call it as I see it and that's biggoted. No spin here. I can't say any simpler than that.  I'm glad I don't have to have a RL association with either of you. I wouldn't want one by choice that's for sure.
 Archy Bunker was funny, once upon a time, some tweny to thirty years ago on TV. But I pity the fool who lives and thinks like that for real. You two remind me of him.
 
    -Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 11-22-2000).]

[MrSiD]

Mmm.. I asked to be insulted in some language I dont understand.. now I did understand that.

Anyway.. Westy, youre entitled to your opinnion entirely as I'm to mine. What comes to the part of never meeting eachothers in person - I probably agree with you! =) I never liked tight-ass kind of persons anyway.

So, I hope Westy will have his wish and the ch1 will be populated with a chatter worse than Babel. In fact, I think I'll go scream there right now in all the 4 languages I can!

Just kidding..

I guess the best I can do is to follow my principles on ch1 myself like I've done so far.. and let the others play the game just as they wish.. I wouldn't want to upset another Westy this week again.. nope.

Westy youre right and I'm wrong..
My ideas are roadkill, you have the wisdom =)

<-- exits this discussion, being obviously overrun by people who know better.

Don't worry, be happy Westy.

[Sascha JG 77]

Weird that this has never come up before, cause in WB it has been the same thing for years. Heck, from time to time even German players tell me to speak english on open/country channel when I start chatting in German.


Sascha

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Jagdgeschwader 77 "Herz As!"

[This message has been edited by Sascha JG 77 (edited 11-22-2000).]

[Fariz]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
Hey guys, I am beginning to think that maybe you are possibly not ugly Americans   .

<S!>

Hmmm, you think they are spies from Japan who work in US?  

[MrSiD]

Quote: It's jeuvinile and crass. I just tell idiots who talk like that (telling folks to speak in English) to shut the hell up.
-Westy :Unquote


Someone needs to take a look in the mirror.. lol. I rest my case.

PS: AH must be a great game to develop this much of strong emotions and fighting  
It seems a lot of people care and want to fight for it to prosper.

[Westy]

 It has nothing to do with "AH" MrSid. It is all about intolerance, biggotry and racism.  

 Spin it any way you want but you can't hide the core of the matter.
 
  -Westy

[MrSiD]

Well Westy, spin it any way you want but it definately seems youre the one who is creating the problem here..

Blaming people for biggotry or racism for no reasonable reason is not very smart or nice.

If you knew me better you would know that I have friends from countries like USA, England, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden, South Africa, Japan, Greece, Italy and China..

Heck, I even married a greek woman.. So who are you to tell me that I'm a biggot or a racist? Get a life Westy. You are pushing personal accusations and attacks on my person.. And I dont (or have to) like it.

My statements about language on the game were (and are) merely based on the practical side of things.. and its only my opinnion of how things should go in a perfect gaming enviroment.

My _opinnion_.

I wasnt the one shouting for those people to shut up, I'm not that kind of person.. But I agree with the shouter in his point, not necessarily the way he put it. I hate to be rude to people, or boss them around..

Westy, youre reaching the point where I might become rude on you.. But youre simply not worth my irritation   I hold no grudge and hope to meet you in the air, friends or enemies..

I'm sorry we had to cross our words this way, but hey - its life.

[AKDejaVu]

 

Hmmm, you think they are spies from Japan who work in US?

LOL! They sent spies over, but they weren't getting any real information or espianage because the spies spent all of their time in the nudie bars.  

AKDejaVu

[Westy]

"Blaming people for biggotry or racism for no reasonable reason is not very smart or nice."

 Go back and start reading this topic from the top MrSid.

  -Westy

[54Ed]

Westy:

I read this topic from the start.  Nothing in Wobble's posts suggested he was a bigot or racist.  Yet you called him such.  Likewise for Sid.

Bigotry and racism are terrible things.  However, you are wrong to attach those labels to everyone who doesn't agree with your point of view.  You do your cause far more harm than good when you attack people without justification.  You should remember the childhood story, "the boy who cried wolf."

I suppose now you will be calling me a bigot and a racist for disagreeing with you.

Ed

[Westy]

 "I wont mind if people use the main channel with the language that the majority of people can actually understand. Its not about being narrow minded, just keeping it practical for all. (MrSid)"
 
"seeing as how English (bad english too) is a predominate language it would seem most useful to have seperate channels for seperate languages (Wobble)"

 "Practical for all"...."Seperate channels for seperate languages"    Based on the replies in this thread. Folks who want seperation are definately in the minority.

"I think that having seperate channnels for differnet languages is a VERY valid IDEA and that it makes PERFECT sense to have everyone who speaks english to be on one channel  French on another and so on. (Wobble)"

  that's plain old segregation.
 
"It is obvious anyhow that most of the people chatting with strange languages on the main
 channel are doing it simply because theyre ignorant of the fact that the majority of the other players would prefer to understand what they're saying on their screens. For me the attitude of many posters here seems to be the one of a 'collective congience' with a little halo above their heads.. The attitude is to damn all actions against minorities even when its for the benefit of the whole community. (MrSid)"

 All of which in MY OPINION is biggoted and racist talk on thier part.


 As for you Ed, and your remark "I suppose now you will be calling me a bigot and a racist for disagreeing with you.?",   all I can say is grow up.

   -Westy

[Saintaw]

Bah ! where's Tinky-Winky when you need a hug ?  

Santa, I think all these "yankees" need a little more Beer
<tic>

Saw

[Ice]

As for me, 99% of everyone chattin on channel 1 might as well be speaking chinese....to begin with, I don't pay any attention to them anyway and when I do, I'm usually sorry I paid any attention at all

I say, just let em yap in whatever language makes them happy...If they are of the same country, we already have private channels they can use to speak their favorite speak.

Jeepers guys!!! Why are we discussing this in the first place???

Haven't ya heard, Clinton is still running the country!!!! First things first, please

Ice

[1776]

LOL,ice heheeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[MrSiD]

Well at least now I know what it is to be under the audition of the Spanish Inquisition.. Are you sure youre on the correct century Westy?  

All this aggravation on Westy's part leaves me worried about his mental health.. Is everything ok with you? If you feel constant pressure around the temples of your head or if you feel detached from reality, I suggest you seek counceling. They're pretty good these days you know  

Westy, if you look closer, you will notice that you are a bigger biggot than any of us. You're trying to suppress the opinnion of anyone who disagrees with your views by huge verbal attacks.. And your observations about racist remarks etc. are reaching classical symptoms of paranoia. Nobody here said that all the language or skin color minoritites shuld be banned from the game.. Nobody! What happened here was simply a discussion about how people think public communication should be handled.

We are still entitled to an opinnion aren't we? Or am I maybe wrong? Does sticking to my civil rights make me a biggot and a racist? I don't think so. This (at least on my part) was meant to be an open discussion about this subject, and I wanted to stir the soup intentionally by giving an opposing opinnion against the usual 'yes yes' style of thread this was becoming.

So, in effect, youre trying to suppress my freedom of speech Westy! If I was you, I'd be ashamed to show my face on this bb again.

And this is definately the last message from me on this subject. (possibly even in general.)

MrSiD - A newly formed Biggot and a Racist