Author Topic: wow it works (Read 2625 times)

lada · « **on:** May 17, 2004, 08:43:37 AM »

Someone simply know how to make a friends and someone simply know, how to make enermies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3718229.stm

Ok coz this is not nothing new, i have one question.

At whitch point would you consider ethical to ban trade with Israel?

In my persona opinion its right time to do it, we maybe see more that old blah blah blah BS.

Like pause for 3 months, just a little warning.

Do you think it could make thinks to shift somewhere ?

Curval · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2004, 08:50:22 AM »

If the Palestinians stop strapping bombs to themselves and their children maybe the US would consider it. But then Israel wouldn't have to go and knock down house if they did so.

It's a circular thing.

lada · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2004, 08:57:20 AM »

yes it is, but we have no way (in my opinion) how to force politics in Palestine to do something about that.

But we have way, how to change steps of israel.
I thing we can agree on fact, that there is nobody w/o blame.

anyway i were reading some more news and found this....

"After the Israeli Supreme Court ruling that the army was allowed to destroy homes in self-defence, the army chief of staff spoke of plans to demolish "hundreds" more Palestinian homes. "

Viva Democracy....

So if Taliban`s Supreme court allow that Twins can be destroy as part of self defense, it should be quite ok shouldnt it ??

Some people still didnt get the fact, that there is no way to go w/o respect for each other.

Saintaw · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2004, 08:57:47 AM »

And why exactly do they strap bombs to themselves?

Like you said, It's a circular thing.

lada · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:04:41 AM »

Guys you didnt answer my question.
Saw you are doomed for that

capt. apathy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:12:33 AM »

Israelis level homes because the Palestinians do the suicide bomber thing.

Palestinians set off bombs because the Israelis level homes.

round and round we go.

at some point (IF anything is ever gonna change), one of these groups is going to have to realize that they can't control everything but they can control their own behavior.

at some point they might even want to look at their standard reaction and ask themselves the question- "so, how's that working out for you?"

it's the only way things will ever change over there. which is to say, they aren't ever going to change.

all it takes is one Palestinian who isn't happy with whatever peace deal is on the table, he makes an attack on Israel, Israel makes an attack on Palestinians in general, they use it as justification to start more waves of attacks. it's never going to stop because you can have millions of people 'on-board' with a peace plan and one lone guy can trigger it all back to war in the blink of an eye.

I think it was Dennis Miller (it was a while ago, I could be wrong) who said- "millions of years from now, when the human race has imploded and has destroyed our planet to the point where it is inhabited only by single celled organisms. in the middle east, there will be Palestinian and Jewish organisms who devote most of their energy to killing each other."

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:13:38 AM »

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Originally posted by lada
yes it is, but we have no way (in my opinion) how to force politics in Palestine to do something about that.

Good thinking. Can't stop the terrorists so leave them alone. Stop the other guy first.

lada · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:23:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Good thinking. Can't stop the terrorists so leave them alone. Stop the other guy first.

So Israel is lill vicim w/o blame in that conflict ?

Palestine have nothing to lose from political point of view. Sancnions in Israel could force people to care more about current situation and future.

Im missing reactions of normal people of israel regarding conflict. I know there is some kind of censorship on this in Israel, but not sure if it affect goverment only or whole press.

AKWeav · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:43:48 AM »

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Palestinians set off bombs because the Israelis level homes.

No, they do it because they want to kill every Jew in the middle east. If they get their way, they'll start with Jews elsewhere in the world.

Thats why there will never be peace in that region.

storch · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:45:07 AM »

Lada Lada Lada, Ever since the creation of the modern Israeli state her neighbors have had the stated goal of totally anhilating her populace. It is clearly a conflict that was was started by the Arab countries from the first day. What would you do if you were an Israeli?

WilldCrd · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2004, 10:03:23 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
Lada Lada Lada, Ever since the creation of the modern Israeli state her neighbors have had the stated goal of totally anhilating her populace. It is clearly a conflict that was was started by the Arab countries from the first day. What would you do if you were an Israeli?

Move! someplace in the tropics im thinking...yeah with half nekkid hula girls and lots of alchol and satalite tv, intardnet, and hot chicks....oh did I say that twice?

Saintaw · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2004, 10:48:53 AM »

WilldCrd, ever been to Israel? I think it's the place on earth where the hot chick/square meter ratio is the highest on earth.

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2004, 11:03:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
WilldCrd, ever been to Israel? I think it's the place on earth where the hot chick/square meter ratio is the highest on earth.

I'd have to agree, Saint... I've been there, and have witnessed the amazing lifeforms the area breeds.

I was in Eilat with an old buddy of mine when I saw, from behind, this wavy-haired brunette, dressed in white shorts, a little tee-shirt and flip flops, like she'd just come in off the beach. We were at a fast food place at the time. To our great anticipation, she turns around... Cute as a button--except for the Uzi hanging across her chest.

And to Lada,

I don't know who you mean by normal 'people'... Normal people tend to understand two things:
1.) Israel is less interested in oppression than they are in survival
2.) By punishing Israel in order to force them to 'think' about what they're doing, you're in effect rewarding the suicide bombers. Not only that, but you're encouraging them to persist in their tactics whenever a future issue arises--have we been over this before?

If you think there's an easy way out of it, and sanctions against the Israelis is the first logical step, then I guess I've overestimated your intelligence yet again.

lada · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2004, 11:08:53 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
Lada Lada Lada, Ever since the creation of the modern Israeli state her neighbors have had the stated goal of totally anhilating her populace. It is clearly a conflict that was was started by the Arab countries from the first day. What would you do if you were an Israeli?

if i were from Israeli, i would go for this

http://news.google.com/news?q=Tel+aviv+demonstration&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=nn

anyway did you see it on TV or it were censured... i think 120.000 of people in the streets is quite nice demonstration

StabbyTheIcePic · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2004, 11:16:09 AM »

Give Palistine its own state. That is the first thing they need to do, even if it means negotiating with arafat. Do you know how many moderate arabs would stop supporting the terrorists in iseral if Palistine was a state?