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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2004, 11:42:15 AM »
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We will know soon, because if they have more, they will be using them correctly next time.


On CNN it's stated that the projectile can only be used effectively when it is indeed fired from artillery, as designed. So maybe we're lucky and the insurgents will not be able to use it effectively.

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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2004, 11:44:20 AM »
Impossible, there are no WMD or terrorists in Iraq.

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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2004, 11:48:45 AM »
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Well, this should finally put the "did Iraq have WMDs"-question to rest. Suck it up pacifist tards.


really?  they have traced the source of this weapon already?

  last I heard they had no idea where it came from.   until they prove where it came from it means nothing.

do you really think that all of those fighting now, and the weapons they are using where in Iraq at the time we invaded?

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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2004, 11:50:06 AM »
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Impossible, there are no WMD or terrorists in Iraq.


Exactly ;)

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A prison laboratory complex that may have been used for human testing of BW agents and "that Iraqi officials working to prepare the U.N. inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the U.N." Why was Saddam interested in testing biological-warfare agents on humans if he didn't have a biological-weapons program?

"Reference strains" of a wide variety of biological-weapons agents were found beneath the sink in the home of a prominent Iraqi BW scientist. "We thought it was a big deal," a senior administration official said. "But it has been written off [by the press] as a sort of 'starter set.'"

New research on BW-applicable agents, brucella and Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever, and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin that were not declared to the United Nations.

A line of unmanned aerial vehicles, UAVs, or drones, "not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 kilometers [311 miles], 350 kilometers [217 miles] beyond the permissible limit."

"Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited Scud-variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the U.N."

"Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1,000 kilometers [621 miles] -- well beyond the 150-kilometer-range limit [93 miles] imposed by the U.N. Missiles of a 1,000-kilometer range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets throughout the Middle East, including Ankara [Turkey], Cairo [Egypt] and Abu Dhabi [United Arab Emirates]."
In addition, through interviews with Iraqi scientists, seized documents and other evidence, the ISG learned the Iraqi government had made "clandestine attempts between late 1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300-kilometer-range [807 miles] ballistic missiles -- probably the No Dong -- 300-kilometer-range [186 miles] antiship cruise missiles and other prohibited military equipment," Kay reported.


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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2004, 11:51:26 AM »
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The news I've heard is that a single 155mm shell used as a roadside bomb contained some Sarin which did not completely set off, just enough to detect the chemical.

FYI: Sarin has a shelf life of 5 years.


your information were almost correct
im glad you showed calm head and you didnt made sutch silly post like all those other sheep

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3722255.stm

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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2004, 11:52:06 AM »
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really?  they have traced the source of this weapon already?

  last I heard they had no idea where it came from.   until they prove where it came from it means nothing.

do you really think that all of those fighting now, and the weapons they are using where in Iraq at the time we invaded?


They knew that had they used it *during* invasion, that there wouldn't be that much of Iraq left to do subsequent insurgents fighting, but lots of glass!

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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2004, 11:54:27 AM »
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They knew that had they used it *during* invasion, that there wouldn't be that much of Iraq left to do subsequent insurgents fighting, but lots of glass!


I really hope that you do not actually believe that we would use our nuclear stock pile for anything other a retaliation for an nuclear attack on us.

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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2004, 11:55:14 AM »
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Well, this should finally put the "did Iraq have WMDs"-question to rest. Suck it up pacifist tards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3722255.stm

so whos tard now ?

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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2004, 12:01:32 PM »
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Why was Saddam interested in testing biological-warfare agents on humans if he didn't have a biological-weapons program?


defense?

  if you knew your enemy possessed such weapons (and he knew that we do), wouldn't you want to know as much about them as possible so you could defend against them?

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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2004, 12:04:52 PM »
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I really hope that you do not actually believe that we would use our nuclear stock pile for anything other a retaliation for an nuclear attack on us.


You must have missed the ;)  smilie.

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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2004, 12:07:16 PM »
Wow I thought there were no WMDs in Iraq???????

GEESH next thing you know we'll find out that John Kerry was a war hero in vietnam.

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2004, 12:10:56 PM »
I think the problem here is the left expects to find a huge cache of WMD. That won't happen. Alittle here, alittle there, no sensationlized reporting (as I pointed out in the copy/pasted article above) and what you have is a country that did possess them, but they were not found in single spot, or a majority of them have yet to be discovered. After all, how hard is it to hide these weapons in a country the side of California?

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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2004, 12:12:56 PM »
Sti, our stated policy has been for a long time that we would use Nukes in retaliation for any WMD, including chem or bio war.

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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2004, 12:14:04 PM »
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I really hope that you do not actually believe that we would use our nuclear stock pile for anything other a retaliation for an nuclear attack on us.


you mean... that we wouldn't use them AGAIN for anything other than a retaliation for a nuclear attack on us  .... right?   :p

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AP:Iraqi Artillery Shells with WMDs Found
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2004, 12:15:06 PM »
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I think the problem here is the left expects to find a huge cache of WMD. That won't happen. Alittle here, alittle there, no sensationlized reporting (as I pointed out in the copy/pasted article above) and what you have is a country that did possess them, but they were not found in single spot, or a majority of them have yet to be discovered. After all, how hard is it to hide these weapons in a country the side of California?


but we interrogated so well :(