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Westy · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:33:36 AM »

Let me be plain in return. I think you're obnoxious arse and are being lazy and just plain difficult. It's your "game" on the board.

I already told you how to find it. Even a one handed chimp could do it. Be your own "step and fetch it!"

Dowding · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:35:01 AM »

Toad, I'd check the date of that Muslim Council press release if I were you. Seems it was issued the day the story of the killing broke. It says as much in the very first paragraph.

Westy · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:36:19 AM »

Oh yeah? Yeah!? ! But is it on Al Jazeera? (melodramatic eye roll ala AKIron)

AKIron · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:37:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Westy
Let me be plain in return. I think you're obnoxous arse and are being lazy and paricularly difficult. It's your "game".

I already told you how to find it. Even a one handed chimp could do it. Be your own "step and fetch it!"

I didn't start this thread and I couldn't care less what you think about me. Your inability to back up your claim will forever render your opinion without merit in my opinion.

Monk · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:40:55 AM »

Westy, whereabouts from Mass. are you?

Toads right, muslims groups in Europe or the US ain't going to cut it.

Westy · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:42:33 AM »

I certainly backed it up. Gave you the toools and enabled you. But you in the end cop out of the argument with the penultimate jeuvinile retort, "I can't hear you anymore, neener."

That's as low and lame as someone who starts an argument and then backs out with "nana_ nah... i was just trolling."

Toad · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:42:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Toad, you shifted the goal posts before and you do so again.

Nah, you just define the question to suit your answer.

Tell me, are you going to pretend the Muslim Council of Britain is as influential with Islam as Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in Iraq or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Iraq? As the Ayatollah's presiding over Islam's holiest shrines/mosques?

Go ahead. Those are what I call the leading clerics of Islam. What you guys give out as proof are the relatively few comments from the 8th Immam on the 33rd step of the 2nd minerat of the sunni mosque located on the central plains of Iran.

The real leaders of Islam have remained silent. Sorry, that's just how it is.

AKIron · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:45:20 AM »

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Originally posted by Westy
I certainly backed it up. Gave you the toools and enabled you. But you in the end cop out of the argument with the penultimate jeuvinile retort, "I can't hear you anymore, neener."

That's as low and lame as someone who starts an argument and then backs out with "nana_ nah... i was just trolling."

I usually refrain from calling someone an idiot, in your case I'll make an exception.

Westy · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:46:18 AM »

Out by Worcester. why?

And no you're wrong. they count too. There is no central religious figure or head of Islam. There is no Pope or central figure. It's all splitner groups with people follolwijg their favorites. Literally hundreds if not thousand of seperate groups. Regardless of that when I was "discussing" this with Toad over the last few days ALL my links were reports for Middle Eastern condemnation. Just each time the report isn't from the ones he specifically wants to hear it from or they'res not "loud" enough. However IMO only the deaf, Rush Limbaugh, or a neo-con could maintain there was "deafening silence."

Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:51:36 AM »

I'm originally from Springfield. Nope sorry, it needs to be a top Mulla from a " In the area" group.

No different from the Mayor of Tupelo saying sorry for the prisoner
treatment in Iraq, and the President saying nothing.

Westy · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2004, 11:58:40 AM »

"it needs to be a top Mulla from a " In the area" group."

Which was already done and links posted in this topic last week

http://216.91.192.19/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116519

AKIron · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2004, 12:00:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Monk
I'm originally from Springfield. Nope sorry, it needs to be a top Mulla from a " In the area" group.

No different from the Mayor of Tupelo saying sorry for the prisoner
treatment in Iraq, and the President saying nothing.

And Al Jazeera silent in it's condemnation is like Fox News, CNN, MSNBC and all the other US news organizations not expressing an opinion if the roles were reversed.

Toad · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2004, 12:25:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy

Which was already done and links posted in this topic last week

http://216.91.192.19/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116519

Yep. Erlkonig was able to find one such statement from a significant Islamic religious source, from Al-Azhar mosque in Egypt.

Nothing as yet from Ka'ba at Mecca (al-Haram al-Makki al-Sharif), the Mosque of the Prophet Muhammad in Ma dina, Saudi Arabia or the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, the Aqsa Mosque (the Haram al-Sharif). These, of course, are the three "holiest" sites in Islam.

But to expect them to speak out would be like asking the fifth mullah on the third step somewhere or some such thing.

Staga · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2004, 12:34:03 PM »

Well I'm expecting to hear pope asking muslims to forgive christians because of those tortured and dead prisoners.

Well some bishop or even cantor will do. Maybe AKIron or Toad could post a link ?

vorticon · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2004, 12:45:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
Presto chango! Moving target again. First it's "absolute silence, then "deafening silence" and now it's "give me a specific article from a specific source." It's that "8th Immam on the 33rd step of the 2nd minerat of the sunni mosque located on the central plains of Iran" baloney.

he could always throw in a rolling scissors or immelman or some such just to keep you on your toes