Author Topic: Frame Rate Suggestions (Read 1728 times)

guttboy · « **Reply #30 on:** May 22, 2004, 04:46:58 PM »

Thanks NO POOP....

Tried running down in the 1024x768 range and just does not look as nice as up in the 1280 or 1600 range:D .

Yeah....I have been thinking about making a new computer from scratch.....I would like it to say GUTTBOY instead of DELL...dont get me wrong...I like Dell...they have been really good to me but now that I know I can build my own computer...hell my buddies did theirs, I would like to do that myself!

Ill ask for suggestions later on this year for stuff cuz seems like alot of NEW stuff is coming out...motherboard changes, case changes, 64 bit (YUMMY)....etc....

Thanks for the help...

BTW I did run ENDITALL2 and it does work on XP Professional.....gained 6 fps by using it!!!!

Take care all!!!

TG12:aok

airbumba · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2004, 08:57:09 PM »

..reading this has been like rolling in fiberglass pink.

SlapShot · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2004, 10:59:41 AM »

I have suggested this before and will suggest it again.

Go to http://www.omegacorner.com and check out his drivers. He supplys drivers for both nVidia and ATI.

I have been using his drivers since I got my card and have NEVER had a problem with them, but rather some of the best video rendering I have ever seen. These drivers have helped greatly increase the level of detail that I see without loss to FPS. As a matter of fact the framerates are higher using these drivers.

I have an el-cheapo ATI 9500 Sapphier ($140 at the time I bought it). With the omega drivers, I am able to soft-mod this card to a 9700 and I don't believe that ATI's newest card could do a better job of redering than what I have now.

I have a 100Mhz monitor with VSYNC "always on" AA at 8X and AF at 16X, and I get solid 100-->50 FPS, and the detail is incredible. No more jaggy edges on planes ... I can easily tell when they dump flaps thats how good the detail is.

The omega drivers also supply a neat little tool called "Driver Cleaner - Omega Edition" or you can get it here ...

http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/

This tool is recommeded to be used when switching for the first time, from ATI drivers to the Omega Drivers but can also be used when updating from one ATI version to the next.

Blammo, from looking at your specs, you should definately be getting much better FPS than your getting. Driver Cleaner may help you. Part of the problem is that when updating video drivers, it seems that old driver files are left behind and can cause problems with the newer drivers ... kinda like short-circuting them.

The guy that writes these drivers is part of the ATI Beta Team, so he knows what he is doing and is privy to stuff that we don't know about.

For more on the omega drivers, go to DriverHeaven ...

http://www.driverheaven.net/forum.php?

and check it out.

For those of you that have the right kind of ATI card and are not faint-of-heart you could also do this ...

"Temporal anti-aliasing on R3x0 investigated"

This tweak can be found at ...

http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=4533&head=1&comments=1

I have applied (or turned on) this tweak and its amazing.

Blammo · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2004, 12:28:49 PM »

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Originally posted by flyingaround
Actually...I had several suggestions. But you've come across pretty much as a jerk, so the heck w/ you. Your the type that people try to help, and you respond w/ insults.

HINT use the AH BBS SEARCH button. Nothing your asking about hasn't already been explained in great detail. I guess your just not smart enough (or to lazy) to search through the threads (or the internet) for your answers, and act like a real bellybutton to those taking time to help you out. (Way to insult HT. WOW! That in and of itself was just pure Rocket Scientist. Genius. It's not like he CREATED This game or anything, and MIGHT know what he's talking about.)

Ummm...please read the above thread thoroughly. I apologized to HT for my reaction to his curt reply. I have also been very thankful to the people that have actually put in helpful comments. If I failed to thank anyone, well: THANK YOU!!!!

One other thing: this thread was not simply to help me, but I was looking for suggestions that would help everyone. So, when you say the heck with me, you are saying to heck with everyone that might benefit from the your experience and knowledge. Sorry you feel that way.

Now, if we can just let this thread get on to what I originally intended, that would be grand.

guttboy · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2004, 12:40:04 PM »

Slapshot,

Any thoughts as to why I am running in the lower frame rates when I hit a base area (jabo style)? No matter how I tweak the card, AA/AF, It still performs the SAME. Could it be my system?

Thanks

SlapShot · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2004, 01:10:00 PM »

guttboy ...

If it were me I would ..

Go get the omega drivers.

Uninstall the ATI Control Panel (from add/remove programs). This is required before installing omega drivers. Omega supplys his own Control Panel.

Uninstall the ATI drivers.

Run Driver Cleaner.

Install the omega drivers (currently at Cat 4.5 release).

If that doesn't help or you don't like the omega drivers, you can always uninstall them and load the ATI Cat 4.5 drivers back.

As far as I am concerned, you have nothing to lose.

guttboy · « **Reply #36 on:** May 23, 2004, 03:48:22 PM »

ALL RIGHTY THEN....will give that a shot.....

Thanks.

wish me lucK!!!!!!

guttboy · « **Reply #37 on:** May 23, 2004, 05:04:03 PM »

Ok Slapshot....

NOW...I cleaned it out but cannot find the place to adjust the AA and AF?...the catalyst stuff where I manipulate the settings is GONE....where did it go? How do I adjust my settings now....

AHHHHHHHH

SlapShot · « **Reply #38 on:** May 23, 2004, 07:06:31 PM »

Yes but after you cleaned out, did you install the Omega drivers ?

If you did your should have off the Start button ...

Radeon Omega Drivers v2.5.44

Inside that Program Folder you should see ...

Catalyst Control Panel

Click on it and you should see ...

or ...

Right click on the desktop and choose "Properties"

Then click on the "Settings" Tab

Then click on the "Advanced" button.

Then click on the "Direct3D Tab"

Blammo · « **Reply #39 on:** May 23, 2004, 11:15:00 PM »

Hey SlapShot: Thanks for all the info you have been supplying. It has been really helpful. I wonder if I can get your opinion on something:

I am currently using the nVidia FX 5900 Ultra with 256 MB DDR RAM. I have an ATI 9800 Pro with 128 MB DDR RAM sitting around here. Which do you (or anyone) think is a better performance card? I have been thinking of switching them out, but if they are roughly equal, then no point.

Anyway, you may not know and may not have an opinion, but I thought I would ask.

I have downloaded driver cleaner and I am going to use it tomorrow and see what happens.

SlapShot · « **Reply #40 on:** May 24, 2004, 08:29:52 AM »

Blammo,

Form what I have read, it's a toss-up between the 2. I would just leave the nVidia card in.

Omega does supply drivers for nVidia also.

guttboy · « **Reply #41 on:** May 24, 2004, 11:49:21 AM »

Slap.....

Tried running the Omega drivers again and still no performance improvement whatsoever. It appears that my bottleneck is in the CPU/MOBO......I Think its time to spend some bucks and get a newer MOBO/CPU combo and use this machine as my "fancy internet surfer"...LOL.....

Thanks for the help...

Regards:)

SlapShot · « **Reply #42 on:** May 24, 2004, 12:37:23 PM »

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Originally posted by guttboy
Slap.....

Tried running the Omega drivers again and still no performance improvement whatsoever. It appears that my bottleneck is in the CPU/MOBO......I Think its time to spend some bucks and get a newer MOBO/CPU combo and use this machine as my "fancy internet surfer"...LOL.....

Thanks for the help...

Regards:)

Bummer !!! ... well we gave it a shot. At least you have become more familiar with video drivers thru the ordeal, if thats a consolation.

guttboy · « **Reply #43 on:** May 24, 2004, 01:48:45 PM »

lol no worries buddy...gotta try it all!

Darkish · « **Reply #44 on:** May 24, 2004, 04:08:35 PM »

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Running AH2 Beta34....Screen Res 1280x1024...Frame Rates 20's to 60's depending on environ....Full AA and AF on card. Sliders set primarily for performance in the game.

Before splurging on new system just want to check that you've tried reducing AA and AF sliders - what does setting them at 2x do for your framerates?