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Offline jamusta

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« Reply #105 on: May 20, 2004, 10:01:49 AM »
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Please define wealthy for me?


Depends on how you see things Iron. To me wealthy people own corporations like Microsoft, Cisco and such. Singers actors athletes are rich.
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« Reply #106 on: May 20, 2004, 10:05:57 AM »
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Depends on how you see things Iron. To me wealthy people own corporations like Microsoft, Cisco and such. Singers actors athletes are rich.


So what's to prevent a singer/actor/athlete from buying one of those corporations? Provided they have the money of course. I always thought it was money that determined if someone was rich/wealthy. They don't give those things away you know.
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« Reply #107 on: May 20, 2004, 10:07:30 AM »
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What do you suggest Curly? Put more white people in jail or decriminalize drug abuse? I still say run those senators out on a rail. ;)


We have some problems in our society.  Until those problems are solved, race issues will not go away.  And, we're not unique ... many of the same issues exist in other countries.  Hell, it may just be pure human cussedness.

We aren't going to find solutions until we manage to change attitudes.  Public school desegration was a gigantic step.  It sensitized a nation of white youngsters.  Was it 100% effective?  Nah, but it was a good first step.  We need step two now and unfortunately, I don't have a clue.

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« Reply #108 on: May 20, 2004, 10:14:33 AM »
I think this will make a good campaign banner for Hillary in '08.

Senator of state tough on crime! If your black that is. ;)
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« Reply #109 on: May 20, 2004, 10:33:51 AM »
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So what's to prevent a singer/actor/athlete from buying one of those corporations?  


Bill Cosby tried to become partial owner of NBC. He has the money. His power grab was blocked.

Michael Jordan and other retired black athletes tried to start an NBA team in Charlotte. They have the money. Their petition was denied.

Michael Jackson wanted to becomr partial owner of Epic Records in the 80's. His mothion was denied, so he left.

 (He lost his mind as well, but that's beside the point...)

Singers and songwriteres often have to start their own label since it's impossible to become part owners of the labels that they've operated under.
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« Reply #110 on: May 20, 2004, 10:48:52 AM »
Corporate takeovers are often met with resistance. Affirmative Action need not apply in the world of high finance.
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« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2004, 12:26:40 PM »
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Corporate takeovers are often met with resistance. Affirmative Action need not apply in the world of high finance.


Who was talking about AA at that level? Not me. You asked a question about what prevents a singer or athlete to buy a corporation and he answered. Jordan wants majority ownership. The new charlotte team is owned by the man who sold BET to viacom. So black people can no longer say there are no black team owners. There is 1 owner out of how many sports teams?
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« Reply #112 on: May 20, 2004, 12:30:33 PM »
How many teams should be owned by blacks?
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« Reply #113 on: May 20, 2004, 12:33:32 PM »
I'd be willing to bet ya that for every black American you can name that has attempted a buy out and failed I can come up with at least 3 white Americans that have also failed in a similar endeavor.
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« Reply #114 on: May 20, 2004, 01:23:19 PM »
Despite what you all may try to believe, racism is still omnipresent, I'm afraid it will always be (has something to do with the urge to look down on someone to affirm ones superiority and negate any insecurities)...

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The game has changed alot, personally I've gotten turned off since gang members were allowed on NBA teams.


Unless he was talking about Scalabrine of course... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #115 on: May 20, 2004, 01:31:01 PM »
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Bill Cosby tried to become partial owner of NBC. He has the money. His power grab was blocked.

Michael Jordan and other retired black athletes tried to start an NBA team in Charlotte. They have the money. Their petition was denied.

Michael Jackson wanted to becomr partial owner of Epic Records in the 80's. His mothion was denied, so he left.

 (He lost his mind as well, but that's beside the point...)

Singers and songwriteres often have to start their own label since it's impossible to become part owners of the labels that they've operated under.


who blocked all these deals and how?

Was it a government intervention?
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« Reply #116 on: May 20, 2004, 01:33:41 PM »
As long as there are different racial groups in this world there will be racism.  The trick it to make it healthy and competative rather than hateful and destructive but you know humans....always one sore loser on the team.
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« Reply #117 on: May 20, 2004, 01:42:35 PM »
jamusta.. I am more than willing to discuss race issues with you or any black green red or white.   I have no guilt and think guilt just gets in the way of logic.

There is nothing stopping rich blacks from buying any corporation they wish...  Quit making excuses.

You are right tho... I don't care about your  problems.  I don't care to read between the lines.   I don't think it's a good idea in any case.   Things are allways just as they appear... black only is no better than white only.   extra protection or extra benifiets under the law based on race is racism.   plain and simple.  

you are right... it is a waste of your time to try to convince me that you need me to get less protection under the law than you get... you should save those arguements for women you are trying to lay or for guilt ridden white liberals.

I don't think people that have never beem biggoted can understand biggotry as well as those that have been in their past and have seen how silly biggotry is .... no matter what color the biggot.  

If you want to be treated like a man then come at me like a man and we can talk or deal.  

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« Reply #118 on: May 20, 2004, 01:56:08 PM »
Lazs I dont think its correct for you to say those things in the PRC....
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« Reply #119 on: May 20, 2004, 02:33:00 PM »
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As long as there are different racial groups in this world there will be racism.  


There it is in the nutt shell.
If you keep looking at it as different "races" you will never find peace with one another.

Once again write it down if you need to.
THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE!!
THE HUMAN RACE.

It's all about mindset guys.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2004, 04:32:59 PM by txmx »
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