Understanding Racism

[txmx]

Originally posted by AKcurly
Are you blind as well as stupid?  I gave the source.  Read the thread.

curly

Really where is this source you speak of?

You bowlegged inbread:aok

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by txmx
Really where is this source you speak of?

You bowlegged inbread:aok

This thread, second page.  If you want the source, read the second page of this thread.  It's clearly stated.

curly

[txmx]

Originally posted by AKcurly
This thread, second page.  If you want the source, read the second page of this thread.  It's clearly stated.

curly

Well thank you and you did It with out calling me Stupid LOL.
 You know I am just messin with ya .
Gotta keep up the Texas OU rivalry ya know.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
What BS.......If  white guy applied to a black scholorship he could be denied because of his race.  That's discrimination......try and have a white scholarship fund and you get branded a skinhead.

And if a man applied to a scholarship for women, he would be denied also. There are scholarships for blacks, franco-Americans, italian Americans...you get the point. WHite was construsted by Whites to continue their dominance over non-whites. It was when the minorities worked within the system, created by whites, to work towards their advantage that most whites got upset with the system. Similar parallels exist with the Indian casinos...(for another thread)

Originally posted by Gunslinger

Same thing with a white pride parade.  Minorities would protest it and violence would errupt because of wanting to celebrate your race and nothing else......Isnt feburary black history month?????

Are minorities the only ones who protest White pride Parades? I would, but I support all cultures. As I earlier stated, White is not a culture, it's a manufactured construct, so White Power carries no credibility with me.

Originally posted by Gunslinger

Afirmative action is discrimination.  You can bring up Yale class of 67 or sports scholorships and what not but students applying for regular enrollment get sorted out by RACE FIRST TEST SCORES SECOND to promote "diversity".  Now if diversaty is not one of my goals and I Hire more white guys than black guys or males to woman for that matter I could get sued for discrimintaion even though I'm doing nothing different than the colleges.

Where are you getting that data? I have worked in Admissions, and NOT ONCE did I or my colleagues look at race First or ONLY. Period.  Our first, and recurring question is, with all ethical issues related to AA aside is, "can the applicant survive here academically?" And we move on from there. Furthermore, all admissions counselors have an equal say in who does and does not get admitted. Unless you have been on the inside of these conversations, most people don't have the same insight into how challenging the admissions procedure truly is.

Originally posted by Gunslinger

LOOK AT BET.....Black Entertainment Television....Do you really think the NAACP would TOLERATE the WPN....White Pride Network?  Same kind of programing based race and culture....but because it didnt deal with minority issues its DISCRIMINATION.

BET is owned by White owned and governed Viacom, and it has been since 2001.  http://www.hoovers.com/bet/--ID__10916--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml


As for the WPN, take a look at just about every other network, and find a character of color that isint a bufoon, a criminal, or some asexual entity written into the fabric of the series or episode to give viewers the solace that the hero is not bigoted. F

I worked in show business, so I have some insight into what the process is prior to what gets funded and what does not. I've had investors, executive producers, tell me to "dummy down" my characters, or to be "more bufoonish." when we didnt rewrite to their liking, our scripts got denied, or I would walk off the set. I'm not in the biz anymore, thankfully.

(I always thought the WPN was actually Fox. The only Black person who ever made an appearance was Alan Keyes, and even the white neocons didnt support his show, and he's  the most eloquent speaker ithe Republicans have...go figure...) Juan Williams has his token Sunday show, but get real...

(as for the fox crack, lighten up, it's only a joke...sort of...)

All operations from hiring to programming decisions are governed primarily by the white board members (which begs the question regarding the overwhelming negative stereotyping and New Age  Minstrel shows we see on that cable POS)

Originally posted by Gunslinger

Here's another.  I, as a white guy, get bundled into one group...white....when in actuality I am "German American"  were's my group....were's my separation from the French Americans or the Italian Americans?

Look no further:

http://www.german-world.com/English/culture/Clubs/Clubs_organizations.htm

In Minnesota every weekend there's a 24-hour German station that the BBC has with  our cable carrier. I never knew it until my (ex) girlfriend who was from Berlin showed it to me.

Celebrate your German heritage, trace your ancestors back to your original Germanic tribe, if you can, and share that knowledge with as many people as you can, (or just keep it for yourself) and you will find no stronger ally in me. Turn that love of your ethnicity into a White Pride rally, and it falls on deaf ears.

Regarding race, seeing as how the whole concept of racial classification originated in earnest  in the 1700s by a German scholar (can't remember his name, sorry) the following link may be an excellent place for you to start, IMO.


http://www.ascendinglight.com/astrology/chronology_1700.htm

Originally posted by Gunslinger

This whole deal of white people=rich evil people is crap

I agree, while the facts are there. There are 135 separate classifications of race in Brazil and the lighter one gets, the more they are perceieved to be more educated, smarter, and more wealthy. Similar parallels are here, and yes, it IS a load of crap. take it from someone who has to navigate these two worlds...it's very much alive, too.

Originally posted by Gunslinger

OH AND NO in my earlier comment I wasnt talking about minorities and welfare I was talking about Librals and welfare.

I stand corrected, however, you can't challenge the argument that the belief of most is that only liberals are on welfare and all liberals are minority. How can one fairly assume that all of those on welfare, or on hard times, are liberal? I heard, back in 1995 from an investor associate that professional tennis players and golfers also were awarded welfare and unemployment benefits in the off-season. I don't have the data since it's 0120 Thursday, and it's heresay since I didn't learn the information first-hand, so treasure of trash this comment.

Sorry for the typos..I am doing touch and go's on the keyboard. Gotta two mares in the barn about to foal.

Signing off

[txmx]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444

 

Are minorities the only ones who protest White pride Parades? I would, but I support all cultures. White is not a culture, it's a manufactured construct, so White Power carries no credibility with me.

 



 

Then we would have to agree that black is not a culture as well?
And LOL you can rest assured that Black power carries no credibility with me either.

But Human power does .
Gods love for all man does.

If we stop building walls well guess what ? we might just learn about each other what do ya think?

[Nash]

Originally posted by txmx
If we stop building walls well guess what ? we might just learn about each other what do ya think?

But we can't seem to stop building these walls, despite our best intentions and noblest ideas.

The walls seem to build themselves, and we look on dumbfounded.

And then, given the choice between arguing with a wall or not, we go with it... and make up excuses to cover for our laziness in not walking across the street and tellin' the masons how that wall isn't really a good idea.

So we go to a BBS instead and try to fashion the argument that the idea actually has merit.

Lazy, self-serving verbal-gymnastic bs.

[Rolex]

I can think of only one group of people who deserve to be shunned and discriminated against: The multi-thousand post people who argue about everything with the same tedious agendas.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444 White is not a culture, it's a manufactured construct

Then why are there those who have shunned 'Dead European Males" as historical role models?  Aren't they objecting to the culture shared by those DEMs?

White = of European ethnic origin

European is a culture as much as African or Asian (maybe better said a grouping of cultures)

[lazs2]

this is beyond silly... Whites have no culture so they can't have white pride parades?   Only blacks have culture?  

It is ok for blacks to have black schools but not the other way around?  

There are laws that prohibit sellers from descriminating based on religion gender or race for homes but... the rules are layed out quite clearly and should be obeyed.

LOL... all these stupid white guys getting into schools because they are such good athletes while the poor clumsy black kids have no chance due to their poor physical talents?   I would say that the "athletic scholorship" helps a lot more blacks per capita than whites.   But... the vast majority of admissions are based on scores... as it should be except... for RACIAL AA.    It appears that blacks are indeed less smart but  despite the harm that lllowing stupid people to take up space in schools.... despite that... we do it out of???  of fairness?   fairness to who?  the black race?  yeah... that makes me admire blacks allright.

I was an extreme biggot at one time... still have an SS tattoo as a matter of fact... reminds me of where I been.    I seen a lot of stuff.... I'm not biggoted in my opinion now but I won't be conned into feeling guilty... save that for the libereral white boys and girls.  People are people and everyone will succeed in America if they try.  

You want to blame someone for your problems black folks?  Blame the white liberals and blame yourself for falling for it and for playing the guilt game.

As for more blacks being arrested thatn whites for cocaine... just the drug bell curve at work... deal smart use smart lawyer up smart stay out of prison.   drive a ****mobile in a high crime area with expired plates and bags of crack....  

lazs

[AKIron]

I blame the white senators from New York, I've forgotten who they are, anyone remind me?

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by lazs2

You want to blame someone for your problems black folks?  Blame the white liberals and blame yourself for falling for it and for playing the guilt game.

As for more blacks being arrested thatn whites for cocaine... just the drug bell curve at work... deal smart use smart lawyer up smart stay out of prison.   drive a ****mobile in a high crime area with expired plates and bags of crack....  
lazs

I don't think anyone who's bright wants to blame anyone.  Surely an intelligent person would simply want to solve the problem.

And no, it's not a 'bell curve' at work, rather it's systematic.

I have no ideas concerning the solution to these problems, but to suggest they don't exist is lunacy.

curly

[AKIron]

What do you suggest Curly? Put more white people in jail or decriminalize drug abuse? I still say run those senators out on a rail.

[Toad]

I actually went to a Nascar race. Well, I was invited to a private box with free booze, so I went. I watched it. I have to admit, I still don't understand the attraction of racism.

[jamusta]

Originally posted by lazs2


I was an extreme biggot at one time... still have an SS tattoo as a matter of fact... reminds me of where I been.    I seen a lot of stuff.... I'm not biggoted in my opinion now but I won't be conned into feeling guilty... save that for the libereral white boys and girls.  People are people and everyone will succeed in America if they try.  

You want to blame someone for your problems black folks?  Blame the white liberals and blame yourself for falling for it and for playing the guilt game.


lazs

Atleast you can admit it. This explains why you are so blind about racial equality. Actually talking to you about any subject concerning race is a waste of time. You refuse to open your eyes and see things from a minorities perspective. You have no desire too. You could care less about racial equality. I myself get tired of black people always trying to play the race card. It hurts our call for equality more than it helps. People like you just see it as whining. But somethings are just to blatant to ignore.

You're saying athletic scholorships help black people more? You dont read between the lines. Is that not the only scholorship we we can get? Who does that really help? It helps the program not the athlete. Very few schools could care less about their athletes education. Once again its all about money. How many student actually get an athletic scholorship? Very small percent.

For all of you who think AA is racism, looking from your point of view, you are right. It is. In my opinion your point of view is wrong. I worked for a company which had 750 employees 5% were black. None where in management positions. In my area we had around 100 of which 4 of us were black. I honestly believe if it were not for AA that 5% would have been 0%.

A comedian said:
There will never be wealthy black people. We have lots of rich  ones but no wealthy ones. Shaq is rich, but the man who writes Shaqs check is wealthy.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by jamusta
Shaq is rich, but the man who writes Shaqs check is wealthy.

Please define wealthy for me?