Bill Cosby on the need to speak 'English'

[txmx]

Originally posted by midnight Target
OTOH...

 "I agree with him, but he should have kept it in the family".

 

Sounds like sepretist talk to me.
Keep it in the family.
What family the "Black" family?

I aint pointing fingers MT Just bringing up a point that  biggotry can often go both ways.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by txmx
Sounds like sepretist talk to me.
Keep it in the family.
What family the "Black" family?

I aint pointing fingers MT Just bringing up a point that  biggotry can often go both ways.

You're right. The only pointing you're doing is at your inability to comprehend written English.

[txmx]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You're right. The only pointing you're doing is at your inability to comprehend written English.

Really I was just asking a question?

And the best you can do is be a smartarse.
Well you are missing one half of that pie there ARSE.

We  have now traded insults across the internet is our manhood any bigger now?

My question was and Is by that quote it almost sounded as If the person speaking it was indeed seperating them selves from
who ever was not in there "family" now my question is the "family" in question  Blacks in general? or that persons mother , father ect:

[storch]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You're right. The only pointing you're doing is at your inability to comprehend written English.

he doesn't get it !!!!!

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by jay1988
It pisses me off when white people think all blacks talk "slang". I'm Black and I talk without using "Slang".

Statements like this can be part of the problem.
You statement could be interpreted:
“It pisses me off when ALL white people think all blacks talk "slang".”
Or:
“It pisses me off when SOME white people think all blacks talk "slang".”

The exact same problem exists when white people make statements about black people.

Which statement did you mean?

eskimo

[txmx]

Originally posted by storch
he doesn't get it !!!!!

Some people never grow out of the BRAT stage.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by txmx
Really I was just asking a question?

And the best you can do is be a smartarse.
Well you are missing one half of that pie there ARSE.

We  have now traded insults across the internet is our manhood any bigger now?

My question was and Is by that quote it almost sounded as If the person speaking it was indeed seperating them selves from
who ever was not in there "family" now my question is the "family" in question  Blacks in general? or that persons mother , father ect:

You ever heard somebody tell a really funny joke, then have to explain it to someone line by line because they didn't get it? It sucks the funny right out of the joke. Explaining my post would also suck in many ways.

[txmx]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You ever heard somebody tell a really funny joke, then have to explain it to someone line by line because they didn't get it? It sucks the funny right out of the joke. Explaining my post would also suck in many ways.

SO in other words you cant answer my question?

[midnight Target]

Won't


that would be different than can't.

[capt. apathy]

Originally posted by midnight Target
OTOH...

I was listening to some talk radio the other day and the guy was asking Black folks to call in and give their feelings on the Cosby quote.

I realize they screen calls, but almost to a person this was the sentiment: "Cosby is right of course, but he shouldn't have said it in public", or "I agree with him, but he should have kept it in the family".

Family? Public? Daayyaam! If he's right it shoud be shouted from the freakin rooftops and broadcast repeatedly until people listen!

absolutely.

one sure way to know if you have an unreasonable view or expectations out of the world.  one sure way to know if you're trying to improve things or just find someone else to blame your failures on.

if you feel the truth is threatening to your position or your goals, you are either a con-artist or delusional.

[txmx]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Won't


that would be different than can't.

No that would be silly and stubborn
But thats your right.

[lazs2]

jay... I do not believe that all blacks speak ebonics or slang.  I have dealt with many who do not.   All I am saying is that if you are black you should not make your life more difficult by not speaking proper or, American english.  

If you speak ebonics or slang the best you can hope for is that whites think you are a criminal or an idiot ... many will be threatened by it.  These are not things that help your cause unless your cause is masochistic.

I am not saying that any of this is right or wrong or moral... only that it is the way it is.   Cosby understands that.


lazs

[BB Gun]

"surfer talk"="metalhead talk"="valley girl talk"="rapper talk"

All sound stupid and limit your opportunities if thats the only way you speak.

Only one way gets "defended"

Wonder why?

BB

[txmx]

Originally posted by BB Gun
"surfer talk"="metalhead talk"="valley girl talk"="rapper talk"

All are stupid and limit your opportunities if thats the only way you speak.

Only one way gets "defended"

Wonder why?

BB

Good question and a very good point!
 which brings me to my favorite word WHY!

[StSanta]

Gotta agree with Lazs and others. It's not about banishing slang, but knowing when to employ it and when to use proper language.

I'll say "dude" a lot, do the secret handshake/handsignal thing and use what's equivalent to "rad", "fat" and "cool" and acronyms like DGIT (Dead Guy In Training) and generally sound like a retard when I'm hanging out drinking with other skydivers.

At work, I'll use work language and the particular vocabulary associated with it.

Other than that, when I talk, I do so to communicate a message to a listener. I'd be a fool if I did not do my best in delivering the message in a way that a) is easily understood by the listener and b) leaves the listener with the appropriate impression of me, my intentions and of what has been said.

Gotta know when to do and when to not do.