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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2004, 12:40:28 AM »
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The matter in front of us is if the Gov can control what gets heard.


That is why totalitarian governments jail the one who speaks out. They control the speaker.

Moore has not been hushed up and the movie has undoubtedly received more publicity than it could have ever hoped for had the distributor paid for it all.

The reason I believe that this whole thing hit the fan is a power struggle between Disney HMFIC Michael Eisner and the Weinsteins at Disney’s Miramax subsidiary.

The Weinsteins wanted more independence from the Disney Corporation and Eisner wanted to reign them in.  Eisner told them not to fund Moore’s film in the first place and the Weinsteins did it anyway.

This is not a free speech issue, it is a intra-corporate pissing contest.
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« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2004, 12:43:01 AM »
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Clear Channel is another. And it's just the start.
 


Clear Channel is evil.
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« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2004, 12:53:55 AM »
Eisner is totally under seige.

This movie is gonna make a killin'.

Whatever grudge he has with Miramax, it's so much worse with his BOD. Miramax isn't an issue. Eisner hasn't even got that kind of lateral movement. It'd be in his best interests to release the film.

But wait, maybe not....

I'm focusing on the "not" part.
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« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2004, 02:08:25 AM »
I'm curious Nash why do you care if Disney rejected this pos?  

Surely somebody else will pick it up and show the truth to the masses...  

Right?

Are you saying that Disney had to market it JUST because its controversial trash, and so not attract the anger of usa hater conspiracy nits like you?
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Offline Nash

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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2004, 02:16:31 AM »
Grun... yer last sentence is such a train-wreck I can't even understand it, and ponder how you managed to scrape by in highschool.

Like, how am I to respond?

Yes!(?) "Disney had to market it JUST because its controversial trash"

If it were merely trash and not controversial trash they would erhm, not be contractually bound to market it. Can you figure that one out? Me neither. Ask better questions. Garbage in - garbage out.

I am being totally 100 percent up-front with you when I say that I laugh at you.

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« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2004, 02:19:10 AM »
I liked the bit where everyone has judged the film on it's accuracy without even actaully seeing it....

I hope Canne doesn't give any more awards to film I want to see...if it gets an award...it's "obviously" crap

 Tronsky
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« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2004, 02:38:07 AM »
Ohhh lil nash cant read....

Anyway for the reading impaired:

You say it's evil censorship because disney refused to take this trash.  Trash which you like. And because of that you are upset, and because of your hatred of bush you grope for far fetched conspircy theories as to why disney did not take the movie.

So I'm asking you if it is your belief that disney had to market it, this controversial trash, just to avoid this accustion of censorship by ignorant people like you.

Now that should be clear enough for even a clever chap like you to understand...
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« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2004, 02:42:11 AM »
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I liked the bit where everyone has judged the film on it's accuracy without even actaully seeing it....

I hope Canne doesn't give any more awards to film I want to see...if it gets an award...it's "obviously" crap

Tronsky


Yea just like how Bowling for Culumbine got an award from them and the oscars as a documetary when most of it was full of staged scenes, highly edited and timeshifted footage, lies etc...

But agin it always comes down to what you want to see and if it confirms your existing biases and prejudices, which columbine did in spades for you ignorant america haters...

Andd the best of it is yoiu all consider yoursels somehow sophisticated and specially enlighened with the real truth by watching that trash...
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« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2004, 02:42:56 AM »
i maed a movy with my 8mm camra and disnie wont distirbute it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  it has clay figyers and amination!!!! CENSARSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2004, 02:44:40 AM »
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Now that should be clear enough for even a clever chap like you to understand...


Clear huh?

Let's have a close look...

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So I'm asking you if it is your belief that disney had to market it, this controversial trash, just to avoid this accustion of censorship by ignorant people like you.


Righto. Clear as mud.

Why don't you just ditch the invective and try to actually get your point across in a decipherable manner?
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« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2004, 02:45:28 AM »
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i maed a movy with my 8mm camra and disnie wont distirbute it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  it has clay figyers and amination!!!! CENSARSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Take it to nash's company, I hear they will take anything regardless of financial or publicity concerns.

The company he works for is the last bastion of free speech in north america...
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« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2004, 02:47:12 AM »
Funked... are you serious?

(Prolly not.)

Or are you saying Moore's flim was shot on 8mm with animated clay figures?

(prolly not)

So what are you saying?
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« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2004, 02:47:36 AM »
i dimand free speach!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #73 on: May 23, 2004, 02:48:45 AM »
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Funked... are you serious?

(Prolly not.)

Or are you saying Moore's flim was shot on 8mm with animated clay figures?

(prolly not)

So what are you saying?


I am saying that a movie studio choosing not to distribute someone's film does not violate that person's rights.  Nobody forced Mooron to sign on the dotted line with the Mickey Mouse folks.
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« Reply #74 on: May 23, 2004, 02:49:08 AM »
Nash don't you think it's time that you start reading the big books?

I cant belive you are so ignorant as not understand such a simple sentence.
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