Author Topic: The Indy 500... (Read 864 times)

MrCoffee · « **Reply #30 on:** May 29, 2004, 05:05:21 AM »

Yep too bad the Indy 500 has lost some of its appeal within the American racing world. Well with its tradition, theres always hope that it will once again be the biggest auto race in the world along with 24 hours of Le-mans and Monaco.

whisperer · « **Reply #31 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:22:57 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Anyone hear of Buddy Rice?

Monk · « **Reply #32 on:** May 31, 2004, 10:27:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
hey I drink Warsteiner

........Blaaaa!!!, Radeberger, WRC, LES (the return of the 1000k races) and FIA GT.
that's where it's at.

Bring back CanAm-Interserie, Schumacher wouldn't have enough "Pimmel" to drive one of them.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #33 on:** May 31, 2004, 11:54:44 AM »

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Originally posted by mora
Pushrod V8's with carburetors... I wouldn't call that amazing.

Over 2 horsepower per cubic inch, with a carb (one), two valves per cylinder, one cam (in the block, without roller lifters), and no electronics other than a high energy ignition. Less than 10,000 RPM.

You try it.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #34 on:** May 31, 2004, 11:59:25 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
The Indy 500 was killed by greed. The current owners of the track (who's name escapes me) decided they wanted more money so they formed the Indy Racing League. This forced drivers to make a decision. To race in the Indy 500 they MUST be members of IRL. At the time most of the top drivers stayed with CART which was a bigger circuit with larger purses. Non IRL drivers were banned from running Indy for several years.

After a time some big name drivers started to migrate from CART to IRL. This only hurt both. Indy had already been struggling and became a full blown sham after the Texas race in 2000 when they named the wrong driver the winner of the race. IRL lost it's engine provider (Oldsmobile), CART went thru major financial problems and now both circuits are a shadow of the former unified sanctioning body.

While all this was going on NASCAR expanded with a new TV deal, new tracks, new sponsors and became the most attractive venue for drivers... Tony Stewart, Kasey Kane and Jeff Gordon among them.

It's sad that the need for greed outweighed the need for speed.

You neglect to mention that it was the greed of Roger Penske (one of the great scumbag liars and frauds of racing) that formed CART to begin with.

Or that the formation of CART began the downfall of the Indy 500.

Penske formed CART because USAC wasn't kissing his prettythang and making him enough millions.

No, the greed began long before Tony George became involved.

Sox62 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:14:37 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
Pushrod V8's with carburetors... I wouldn't call that amazing.

With all the restrictions they have,they still pull 800 HP out of naturally aspirated 350 small blocks.That's impressive.

SLO · « **Reply #36 on:** May 31, 2004, 07:10:17 PM »

M.Schumacher is a great driver.....his only known difficulty is passing other cars.....

he has a tendency to crash into them...

no wonder F1 has a NO PASSING CARS LAW...

anyways...F1 cars are so fragile that if you sneeze near 1 you'll most likely make it flip over

Pei · « **Reply #37 on:** May 31, 2004, 09:56:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
hey I drink Warsteiner, and I hate F1. Stick Schuemacher in a Minardi and see how good he is.

Shumacher was winning Championships with Benetton when they were no where near the best team. The first few wins with Ferrari he wasn't in the best car in the field. He may be an arrogant, ruthless son-of-a-b*tch but he is by far the best racing driver out there. What you are seeing right now is the by far the best driver in by far the best car. Would he win in a Minardi? No, but he might very well win if you put him in a Williams or a Renault.

Having said that it has been a quiet interesting year behind the front 2 with Renault and BAR Honda pushing out Williams and MacLaren.

gofaster · « **Reply #38 on:** June 01, 2004, 09:45:08 AM »

Real racing: ALMS. Mid-Ohio event scheduled for June 26-27. 4 types of cars, on the same track, at the same time. Yowza!

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 01, 2004, 10:27:25 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Anyone hear of Buddy Rice?

David Letterman did ~~and kudos to him for his team's win. A genuine "niceguy" in a tough business!~~

1K0N · « **Reply #40 on:** June 01, 2004, 02:35:18 PM »

Salt Walther 1973 after the green flag the carts collided taking out 13 carts and the scene of parts flying in the crowd was just scary...The best of times and the worst of times..
I watched the Unser/Rutherford wins but when the league changed I haven't watched it since

IKON

narsus · « **Reply #41 on:** June 01, 2004, 03:30:24 PM »

If you you took Shumacher out of the field you would have very interesting races to be sure, he just dominates the other drivers. He has a superb driving talent, gotta agree with Pei's arguement.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 01, 2004, 04:10:30 PM »

If you took Schumacher out of the Ferrari you would have some interesting races as well.

narsus · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2004, 04:40:13 PM »

I really think shumy would still be a champion in a Honda, renault, or BMW, he really is and excellent driver and he has been a champion without ferrari.

SLO · « **Reply #44 on:** June 01, 2004, 06:19:53 PM »

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Originally posted by narsus
I really think shumy would still be a champion in a Honda, renault, or BMW, he really is and excellent driver and he has been a champion without ferrari.

he still doesn't know how to pass other cars WITHOUT crashing into them:rofl