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Offline Shuckins

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« on: June 02, 2004, 03:05:40 PM »
...Worth Our Time?  Or are our security and trade interests better served by regional treaties and alliances?

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Offline StabbyTheIcePic

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2004, 04:48:34 PM »
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...Worth Our Time?  Or are our security and trade interests better served by regional treaties and alliances?

Regards, Shuckins/Leggern


The UN will become even more important as the population gets bigger.  It does need to be revamped a little bit though.
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Offline Saurdaukar

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2004, 05:02:33 PM »
Im just gonna go ahead and disagree with Stabby because we never agree on anything except boobies.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2004, 05:31:43 PM »
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...Worth Our Time?  


Only if they do what we want.
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Offline Jester

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2004, 05:33:33 PM »
Waste of time - we should have pulled out years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2004, 05:39:58 PM »
It's great for parties and schmoozing.

It's pretty much worthless for actually getting anything done.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2004, 05:48:42 PM »
right..cause the US will just veto it.
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Offline Shuckins

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2004, 05:56:48 PM »
...or Russia will veto it or Great Britain will veto it or France or...

third world dictatorships with appalling human rights records wind up the U.N.'s human rights committees...or refuse to curb human rights violations in countries like Chad or Sudan...
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Offline VOR

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2004, 06:01:35 PM »
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right..cause the US will just veto it.


Only if it's silly.

Having given this thread some thought, I'm still trying to find some kind of advantage to UN membership. It seems like an investment that hasn't/isn't really paying off. Alot of debating and squabbling, but not alot of action...more like some kind of international en-vogue social club.
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Offline Pei

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2004, 06:30:56 PM »
Interesting considering that the UN was a US idea and a key part of US foreign policy during and immediatelly after the war.
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Offline Badger

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2004, 06:32:05 PM »
I once was a 24 year old youngster who enlisted and idealistically thought the U.N. and its peacekeeping made a difference.  Back then, I would have agreed with some here who think it has relevance.  During almost another 35 years of life experience (including 17 serving my country), I watched while the U.N. stood-by during mass genocides in Bosnia and Rwanda, plus appointed several dictatorships to the Human Rights Commission, including the Sudan who support slavery.  I think its proved as worthless as the old League of Nations.  It's currently nothing more then chest pounding podium for self indulgent, under achieving EU and Arab countries.

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Offline Staga

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2004, 06:42:41 PM »
US out from UN ?

Sounds good; you've been fkcing with UN long enough  :)

http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa03.html
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Offline airbumba

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2004, 06:58:02 PM »
Can't complain about a club that you don't pay your dues to.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2004, 07:03:04 PM »
Badger, do your homework. See who made the call to pull outta Rwanda.

I'm sad you served that long while thinking that way. No wonder our military needs a major overhaul, starting with soldiers like you. You shoulda left long ago then.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2004, 07:16:56 PM »
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Badger, do your homework. See who made the call to pull outta Rwanda.  I'm sad you served that long while thinking that way. No wonder our military needs a major overhaul, starting with soldiers like you. You shoulda left long ago then.


Well my young friend, I did more then my homework and have the tee-shirts as well .... ;)

I'll take feedback from someone who lived it, not another liberal apologist who's idea of service is posting behind the anonimity of a bulletin board. ;)

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The U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to withdraw most of the UNAMIR troops, cutting the force from 2,500 to 270.  The International Red Cross estimates that tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Rwandans are now dead.
 


For anyone really interested in assessing the U.N. in Africa, try reading "Shake Hands with the Devil", The Rwandan Autobiography of Lt. General Romeo Dallaire.  Never before has such a first hand detailed depiction of the U.N. inaction and resulting genocide been written.

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Badger
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