Author Topic: Deadliest Fighter  (Read 2529 times)

Offline HavocTM

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 561
      • http://www.bops.us
Deadliest Fighter
« on: June 08, 2004, 09:57:37 AM »
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I am curious in terms of pure kills (not ratio), what aircraft has shot down the most enemy planes by number?

I suspect it will be a WW2 plane but I am interested to see what plane killed the largest number of enemies.

My best guess is the F6F, but that is just a shot in the dark.

Any ideas?

Offline bozon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6037
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 10:00:20 AM »
I'll place my bet on the 109. Saw constant action from  before WWII till the end as 1st rate fighter.

Bozon
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
the almost incomplete and not entirely inaccurate guide to the AH Mosquito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

Offline Batz

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3470
      • http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/wotans/4JG53/
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2004, 10:00:48 AM »
Not even close the 109s probrably got the most.........

Offline Furball

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15781
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2004, 10:04:41 AM »
I would also say 109. Fought in the spanish civil war, poland, low countries, BoF, BoB, western front, eastern front, the med. and N.Africa.  And i have probably missed some out.
I am not ashamed to confess that I am ignorant of what I do not know.
-Cicero

-- The Blue Knights --

Offline Rafe35

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1426
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2004, 10:13:50 AM »
F4U-4 is deadly - Shot down a few Japanese aircraft and none of them were shot down or damage by the Japanese before war ended.

F8F is probably alot deadliest fighter if they get to see WWII.
Rafe35
Former member of VF-17 "Jolly Rogers"

Offline hawker238

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1563
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2004, 02:48:55 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Rafe35
F8F is probably alot deadliest fighter if they get to see WWII.


There's still a chance they will?

Offline LWACE

  • Parolee
  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 319
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2004, 05:15:01 PM »
lol hawker

VWE

  • Guest
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2004, 05:15:14 PM »
In WWII I believe the F6F took 75% of all Navy kills...

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2004, 07:39:56 PM »
Bf109.  Numbers and duration of conflict win it both the deadliest and "most killed" awards.

No US, UK, JP or RU aircraft can compete in terms of sheer numbers.

For the aircraft of those nations to compete you need to switch to kill ratios.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline GScholz

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8910
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2004, 08:05:16 PM »
109s shot down more than twice the number of aircraft than any other fighter. It's also one of the longest serving WWII fighters having fought in the Spanish civil war, WWII, and the Israeli-Arab wars of the 1950s. It is also probably the most shot down fighter. Kill ratio wise the 109 scores high, perhaps 4 to 1 or so, but other fighters like the very late-war allied ones probably have better k/d.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2004, 10:23:28 PM »
I doubt the 109's K/D is much above 1 for 1.  Frankly, I'd guess it is below 1 for 1.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline LWACE

  • Parolee
  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 319
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2004, 02:30:42 AM »
i dunno, probably so, beings in late ww2 they were gettin shot down left n right, but you also had the top aces who shot down many many many planes for just 1 man, i mean of course they were shot down or killed to, but not nearly as many as they brought down.

I think itd be near impossible to get any exact numbers with all the service 109s saw. Definetly the plane that killed and was killed the most though.

Offline MiloMorai

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6864
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2004, 06:24:28 AM »
For sure the 109 but it was also the most shot down fighter.

On April 9 1945 the LW only had 1300 servicable se fighters of which most likely 2/3 were 109s. There was maybe 11-1200 109s servicable/unservicable 'on the books' left out of the 33K or so manufactured. Even with the increase in production, the 1300 was ~200 less than in Jan. 1945.

Offline Bodhi

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8698
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2004, 08:11:25 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by GScholz
109s shot down more than twice the number of aircraft than any other fighter. It's also one of the longest serving WWII fighters having fought in the Spanish civil war, WWII, and the Israeli-Arab wars of the 1950s. It is also probably the most shot down fighter. Kill ratio wise the 109 scores high, perhaps 4 to 1 or so, but other fighters like the very late-war allied ones probably have better k/d.


During the early portion of the Hellcat's deployment, it's kill ratio was 37 to 1.  By the end of the war it was down to 19 to 1.  The highest KtD in the war.  The reason for the radical drop was owing to it's heavy employment as a jabo, and the subsequent losses associated in that role.

F6F.... there is no substitute.
I regret doing business with TD Computer Systems.

Offline Batz

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3470
      • http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/wotans/4JG53/
Deadliest Fighter
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2004, 08:14:33 AM »
Quote
The highest KtD in the war


What was the Finish Brewster's K/d.

Slappin' down betties and zeke's isnt that impressive to me...