I don't want to make any more 512 maps.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Grimm
I cant say how one would decided and make it all work,  but I do like the basic Idea,  it would give each starting position a certain flavor.

I like the concept too. But it most usally results in a definitive advantage for 1 of the 3 countries. Or at least a very defined disadvantage for 1 country. Mindinao is a prime example. Baltic would be right on its heels. This would be most challanging indeed. gl

[bockko]

citabria, your maps rock; I am sure you could make super fun maps that are smaller. Thanks either way!

[Citabria]

add to that it looks like the new ah2 maps have quadrupled the workload in terms of laying out texture terrain patterns and objects etc. making a 512 map an even bigger nightmare.

[Birdo]

Personally I would like to see you out of the map making business .....  in my opinion it is a conflict of interest.... and isnt that what we all pay Hitech Creations to do?
I am aware of how difficult and time consuming map making is, and I am not trying to disrespect the map maker... (even though he is a horn tooter and cerebral flexor --- of course hopefully not to make-up for anything lacking in other manly areas )

AH2 Release... wow, neat ,cool, far out ,phat, sick....   Personally it would have been worth waiting 2 months more for it to be all ironed out, de-bugged, smoothed out, fixed, corrected.....  I understand that one has to play it to find all the bugs... but isnt that what beta is for?

It is like manufacturing an automobile.... the newest and latest model...  and when it rolls off the showroom floor------ the tires fall off and it backfires....

I must say that I am anxious for the day when 99% of the bugs are out ..... there are more things good about AH2 than there were in AH1....   Perhaps I need to stop being a perfectionist....
and more of a philanthropist   ~ Birdo

[Citabria]

business?
I make maps free of charge to HTC and you. I made festerMA for free after being forced to fly on bigisles i couldnt stand it any more. the 13th TAS commisioned me to make Ozkansas and that map was the most creative and ambitious map ive created and you have the 13th TAS to thank for Ozkansas not just me.

HTC has been very helpful in helping me make these maps though sometimes they are so criptic and confusing and at one point i swore i would never make another terrain for them again after some nonconstructive critiscism i got from ozkansas i was about fit to be tied with frustration.

HTC dumped all map making in the players laps years ago deciding that they wanted to let players make terraisn the way they wanted them and ruled that all player made maps must be 512x512.

now theres been 5 player made maps if i remember right over the past number of years.

akdessert
trinity
bigisles (removed from rotation)
festerma was the result of being forced to fly bigisles
ozkansas was inspired by the 13th tas (HT despises this map.)



so tell me

whos going to make the maps if htc isnt?

should htc stop making new planes for ah2 and instead spend a few months building a new main arena?

should they release a terrain editor for ah2 as soon as possible?

[XtrmeJ]

Who let fester out of his chains? Contain him immediatly!

[DipStick]

Originally posted by Citabria
you have the 13th TAS to thank for Ozkansas not just me.

Bless you all!

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Citabria

should htc stop making new planes for ah2 and instead spend a few months building a new main arena?

I kinda agree here....We do need more maps, and if you, the only one that seems to have the skill to make one dont want to do it anymore then HTC are F***ed i mean how old are these maps? (the small ones) i seem to remember them from my first trial in like 2001 or whenever that was!

Originally posted by Citabria


should they release a terrain editor for ah2 as soon as possible?

yup...to let more people try it... After all the AHI editor just crashed for me every time i did something........

[Grimm]

Fester,

If you simply make the playable area 256x256 on a 512 map is anymore work than a small map?

In other words, cant a person just make a smaller map in the center area of a large map without it becoming a huge task?

[twitchy]

New Maps? New Planes? Where?

-Twitchy




I applaud Fester's new maps, no not cause I like the maps, but because I played the same maps over and over and over for three years.

[NoBaddy]

Fester...

The way I understand it, you will make 'templates' for your terrain and then use them to build it. At some point, there will be enough made to make it so that building a map is no more difficult than in AH1. So, just drag your feet a bit and other people will create the templates for you .

Things should get interesting when the mapmaker is released (which shouldn't be much longer). HT says he is 'excited' enough about it to build his own map. RUT ROH!

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by Birdo
Personally I would like to see you out of the map making business .....  in my opinion it is a conflict of interest.... and isnt that what we all pay Hitech Creations to do?

In game far, far away... the company made the game, the players made maps and did the art work for the planes. HT has carried on some of that tradition. Think about it, if you don't like the terrain you're playing in, you can make one of your own .

Originally posted by Birdo

AH2 Release... wow, neat ,cool, far out ,phat, sick....   Personally it would have been worth waiting 2 months more for it to be all ironed out, de-bugged, smoothed out, fixed, corrected.....  I understand that one has to play it to find all the bugs... but isnt that what beta is for?

What 'bugs'? Accept for a CTD bug that is creating problems for some, I have yet to see one. Heck, this is the most bug-free release ever.

[Birdo]

When I used the phrase business.... I was not implying that you were paid for map making... although some free months would probably be in order...  Perhaps HTC would be served well hiring a full time map maker/editor.... one that would not only make new maps...but do the fine tuning of maps that are already in existence...   I would gladly pay a few extra bucks per month for that kind of service.  I was unaware that HTC "refused" to create new maps...     Perhaps all the Combat Theater Maps should be thrown into the main arena... I mean how full is the theater anyway...  and they are fairly accurate from what I understand... Dedalos, from Greece told me it was really accurate...

Getting lots of discos in AH2... anyone else?

OZKANSAS should have came with a pair of Sunglasses..   dang Fester... that map is a little bright.....anyway to tone it down some?  otherwise.... its cool
~Birdo

[DrDea]

Originally posted by Birdo
Personally I would like to see you out of the map making business .....  in my opinion it is a conflict of interest.... and isnt that what we all pay Hitech Creations to do?

 

  Um  no.We pay HT to play the game.

[hitech]

Cit: You are painting a false picture because of the following.

HTC has never asked anyone to submit a map. We produced the TE as an addon that anyone could use to create there own worlds. Most map making is done for special events, and those are play run events that we stay fairly hands off.

HTC Did not dictate you must make a 512 mile map.

What was said is if you WISH to have a terrain excepted for the MA it must be a 512 map. We didn't ask you to make a map. We didn't try perswade you to make a terrain. That was your choice and still is.

As to the critisim, I asume it was when you specificly asked me online if I liked O.K, I said no. In fact I tried to ignore the question until you asked it a 2nd time. I didn't put any critisim out. Didn't slam you. I just simply answered your question in a straight forward manar. If you don't realy want my opinion , why did you ask the question?


HTC Has not gotten out of the terrain making buissness. But as with anything we do , it is a question of priorities. Because players did submit terrains, it shifted the need for us to make one lower on the scale. And I am very thankful that the worlds were created players, making terrains is a fair amout of work, and mostly all you get is a bunch of people critising you,(man welcome to our world).


So cit, thanks for your work in creating the terrains. I hope you continue in your efforts.


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