Author Topic: Cutting Aid to Israel (Read 5358 times)

lada · « **Reply #30 on:** June 21, 2004, 02:18:05 PM »

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Originally posted by xrtoronto
nuke: ask your own government why they didn't veto the last of 87 resolutions against israel (just 2-3 weeks ago)?

Since Nuke doesnt have any clue i will give you answer.

Because that resolution doesnt order anything to Israel.
Its only something like.: Hey Israel, we see some problems at your side as well.

And because US is under political preasure coz of Iraq, Veto sutch resolition could harm Mr. Bush baadly.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 21, 2004, 02:25:14 PM »

lada... have you ever considered moving to at least a semi important country so that you could have even a minor say in things?

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #32 on:** June 21, 2004, 02:32:58 PM »

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Originally posted by xrtoronto
that's pretty much how the entire world sees it (outside of israel and the US)

Well, sure. Folks that "don't want to get involved" always seek a simplistic viewpoint to dismiss a problem.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #33 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:01:42 PM »

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Originally posted by lada
that could force them to think if arogance and stupidity is good political attitude.

It will force them to seek solution and not to hide problems.

Eh...? Anyone else wanna take a crack at this.

AKcurly · « **Reply #34 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:37:04 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_

Without it's military advantage could Israel continue to survive? Something I doubt unless US guarantee's it's borders which I don't see happening anytime soon.

Oh, I don't know about that.

Recall the 1948 war which occurred when Israel became a nation. Who helped them then? Certainly not the Brits, the Brits gave moral support and some military support to the Arabs.

As best as I recall, the US didn't provide military support to Israel in 1948. And when the Arabs closed, with women in full ululation, the Isralies shot their knickers off.

In short, no one expected the Jews to survive and yet they did. They are a very determined group of people with a modern, technological society. Compare the societies of Arabia and Israel.

The only time the Arabs have had reasonable success against Israel occurred when the Soviets invested sizeable sums in Syria and Egypt.

curly

Flyboy · « **Reply #35 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:50:39 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Israel is so uncivilized, that's why foreigners can't travel there without getting their heads sawed off.

Israel is an evil society, that's why when people get blown up on buses, it's usually Jews responsible. Jews and Israel need to be stopped before their radical ideas spread!

i say nuke us

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:52:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Flyboy
i say nuke us

Nah - some nice vacation ("holiday" for the Eurotypes) property in that area.

Flyboy · « **Reply #37 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:54:14 PM »

and we have the hottest girls

Flyboy · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:55:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yup...like it that way. longer coastline than the african continent and small population = not crowded

and the water is what? 10*C?

NUKE · « **Reply #39 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:59:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Flyboy
and we have the hottest girls

you have that and so much more. God bless your great nation

Pongo · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2004, 03:59:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Well, sure. Folks that "don't want to get involved" always seek a simplistic viewpoint to dismiss a problem.

My countrymen have been involved physically in Mid east peace for probably 50 years. Your "getting involved" in the Isreali occupation of Palistine by providing helicopter gunships.
Isreals problem for the last 25 years has not been a human wave of syrians or egyptians. Its been Isreal stealing land year after year from the palistinians. Outside the lawfull borders established when Isreal was founded by UN mandate.
How do you reconcile that Toad? You always ignore it and drag these discussions to something else. But Isreal has created its own security situation. And the US could solve it in a pen stroke.

'if you do not pull out of the palistinian territories and return soveriegnty to the Palistinians as was done for you..we will not send you any more military assistance. If you still persist in oppressing those people we will put in place UN trade sanctions."

Or even easier. get less involved and stop vetoing the worlds attempts to reign in Isreal.

Pongo · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2004, 04:00:01 PM »

They do have the hottest girls..or they did in 1988 anyway.

NUKE · « **Reply #42 on:** June 21, 2004, 04:00:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
My countrymen have been involved physically in Mid east peace for probably 50 years. Your "getting involved" in the Isreali occupation of Palistine by providing helicopter gunships.
Isreals problem for the last 25 years has not been a human wave of syrians or egyptians. Its been Isreal stealing land year after year from the palistinians. Outside the lawfull borders established when Isreal was founded by UN mandate.
How do you reconcile that Toad? You always ignore it and drag these discussions to something else. But Isreal has created its own security situation. And the US could solve it in a pen stroke.

'if you do not pull out of the palistinian territories and return soveriegnty to the Palistinians as was done for you..we will not send you any more military assistance. If you still persist in oppressing those people we will put in place UN trade sanctions."

Or even easier. get less involved and stop vetoing the worlds attempts to reign in Isreal.

you are so ignorant on the issue, it's not even worth arguing with you.

Pongo · « **Reply #43 on:** June 21, 2004, 04:09:26 PM »

Well one of us certainly is.

Its simple. Are Isreali troops and settlements in Palistinian territories?

Are they killing Palistinains to maintain those invasions? Even this fence that is going up? Why is it not along the border of isreal? Why is it in the occupied territories?

You dont have a clue.

NUKE · « **Reply #44 on:** June 21, 2004, 04:12:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Well one of us certainly is.

Its simple. Are Isreali troops and settlements in Palistinian territories?

Are they killing Palistinains to maintain those invasions? Even this fence that is going up? Why is it not along the border of isreal? Why is it in the occupied territories?

You dont have a clue.

you dont have a clue. How do you think Israel gained that land?

By the way, it was never "Palestinian" land you dolt.