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Offline Silat

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« on: June 23, 2004, 08:05:23 PM »
This is more than a game. It is a chat room with planes. Or at least it should be in my opinion.

Community , community , community.

I have made some lifelong friends since I started flying back in the Jurrasic age of AW. My eldest daughter was in London and met Spiffy and his lovely wife. When I go to Seattle to visit my daughter I hook up with a handful of flight simmers that have become friends. I flew to Myrtle Beach to play golf with fellow flight simmers I had only known online. I will be hanging with NB and his son in Seattle in a month or 2. Who would have thought a game could actually produce real life acquaintences and fellow sheep shaggers?

Channel 1 in lieu of Officer Clubs was better than nothing. AW had it right by having an OC that you entered when you joined the game. There you could see all, friendlies and enemas, who were entering the game with you. You could chat and make friends which builds COMMUNITY.

I believe a strong (with teeth) and visual Moderator/Training corp would be the glue that holds the community together. This would have stopped 99% of the bad behavior on #1.

I hope that HTC sees how important community is to this type of game and does something about it.

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Offline XtrmeJ

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2004, 08:08:11 PM »
I completly agree with what Silat has said. He said it so well, there is not much I can add. I 2nd the notion.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2004, 08:13:08 PM »
And channel 200 prevents this how?

Offline TDeacon

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2004, 08:18:59 PM »
Well said, Silat.  HTC, please bring back channel 1, with moderators as needed!!  I volunteer.  

If we don't have the community, we might as well be fighting AI-controlled drones (which is what it seems like now).  

Channel 200 doesn't seem to be an adequate substitute, because most people don't use it.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2004, 08:39:32 PM »
This is why Silat is so well respected, couldnt agree more

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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2004, 09:05:39 PM »
No more obnoxious or bad talk on one.  Its a lot better now.   Thank You HTC and the Staff at Aces High.

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2004, 09:12:47 PM »
Silat's respected? :rofl

On another note.... you came to MB and didn't even let me know? You slugdweeblowlifewannabeabishs heephordingbanana :p

luv ya bro, give me a hug :D

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2004, 09:15:14 PM »
I'd forgotten all about the oc. That was fun. I'm still hoping ch200 takes off, but I just have a bone stuck in my throat, and it is the idea because not everyone liked the conversation, it should be pushed in a back room. That is in no way defending people who abused ch1 with masked obscenity - even on 200 those type of people need to be silenced. But I think a lot of people got that feathers ruffled over the smack talk. Its beyond me how someone can't just ignore that without muting the channel - JUST DONT READ THE WHITE LETTERS or grow a hide. So instead of untilizing a faculty most adults posses ( the ability to ignore distractions) its gota be a software function. They're book burners. It not about what they are exposed to, its about controlling what YOU are exposed to.
They'll go after ch200 - bet on it - they never stop. Its a power grab and that type is power hungry.

That MY opinion lol - burn that.

(in a shrill hysterical voice)BUT WE *NEED* TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!
« Last Edit: June 23, 2004, 09:17:56 PM by TweetyBird »

Offline daddog

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2004, 09:42:17 PM »
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I believe a strong (with teeth) and visual Moderator/Training corp would be the glue that holds the community together. This would have stopped 99% of the bad behavior on #1.
What is the problem with tuning to 200 now? Is that, so hard?

More moderators would just create another type of problem. What hitech has done is simple. Removed the problem with an avenue for the community to still "glue" (I think vent is more accurate) as you call it.
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Offline XtrmeJ

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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2004, 09:48:06 PM »
Just a very strange occurance that no one seems to use ch. 200. The fact is ch1 was so lively before it was taken away, you know most people could deal with it. Also there were not very many whines regaurding to taking ch1 away. Only when it was actually taken away did people want it back. Tuning to ch200 is just as easy. It must be a great task for ppl to tune to ch200 tho. IDK ch1 just seemed much more convieniant. I dont understand why ch1 was taken away and replaced in the first place, both could be "untuned/or squelched, and both serve the same purpose. Seems like alota work to just basically change the look of the old ch1.

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2004, 09:53:37 PM »
Daddog,

Most people behaved themselves on channel 1.  It is illogical to punish the majority for the transgressions of a badly-behaved but vocal minority, if viable alternatives exist.  The moderator idea is a viable alternative.  

There are lots of analogous situations in society.  For example, some people drive drunk.  Which solution is better, eliminating automobiles for the majority, or policing the drunks?

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2004, 09:55:20 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2004, 10:04:20 PM »
The problem with channel 200 is that most people don't use it.  This doesn't mean they don't want to talk, however.  

For example, the other day I had an interesting, inconclusive dogfight which lasted 15 minutes.  Since neither of us died, I had no easy way to ID my opponent, even though I wanted to exchange observations after I landed.  I eventually tracked the guy down by:

1)  Guessing his country by looking at ownership of nearby bases.

2)  Going on channel 200 and asking if anyone was on from that country.

3)  When someone on channel 200 finally replied in the affirmative, I described the situation, which took some time, and requested the person go on that country's channel and inquire as to the ID of my opponent.  They kindly agreed to do this.  

4)  I was later informed of the likely ID of my opponent, and guessing at the spelling, typed his ID into the radio and was able to contact him.  

5)  Even though my opponent hadn't tuned into channel 200, it turned out that they were still willing to exchange friendly comments on the recent fight.  

Note how complicated this all was.  Had channel 1 still been operational, I would have been able to inquire directly, and would have gotten an answer immediately, not 15 minutes later after I landed.  

Get the picture???   :-)

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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2004, 10:06:07 PM »
Where is HTC, seriously! They need to see this. :)

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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2004, 10:33:50 PM »
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I dont understand why ch1 was taken away and replaced in the first place
We have always had 200. We also have 201, 202, 203, …

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Most people behaved themselves on channel 1. It is illogical to punish the majority for the transgressions of a badly-behaved but vocal minority, if viable alternatives exist. The moderator idea is a viable alternative.
Apparently not. How many customers have you lost because moderators were not on “having to police”? Or how many have customers have you lost because a moderator did police things a little too well and you spent an hour on the phone dealing with someone who was offended because they were muted. No offence, but you are looking at this from your side only.

As for the drunk driving analogy, sorry that is a very poor example. HTC does not make any $ on channel one. Everyone’s money is spent. There is not any consequence to his removing it (except for a few whines). Yet it is ludicrous to think that our society could remove automobiles/transportation.

I am sure HTC has seen this thread. ;)
« Last Edit: June 23, 2004, 10:36:01 PM by daddog »
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