Author Topic: Al-Jazeera: Terrorist Mouthpiece or News? (Read 3147 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #105 on:** June 27, 2004, 09:57:19 AM »

It's more complicated than that now, but I dont want to get into it any further if you dont mind.

AKIron · « **Reply #106 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:19:40 AM »

The attack on the WTC was merely symbolic? I'm sure there are 3000 families that will be relieved to hear that. Anyone that feels that attack was justified or deserved is an enemy of the US. We can tolerate enemies so long as they control their animosity. Strike out at us though and expect to be struck back, only much harder. Most in the US feel this way, not just us "neocons".

AKIron · « **Reply #107 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:28:29 AM »

Al Qaeda will win only if we lose our resolve to eliminate the hotbed of fanaticism that has so permeated the middle east. Can't, or won't kill 'em all so we'll just have to install democracies. Certainly a daunting task.

AKIron · « **Reply #108 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:33:04 AM »

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See what I mean Grun? I fear this will end very badly indeed.

Nothing great is ever accomplished without risk.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #109 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:40:15 AM »

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See what I mean Grun? I fear this will end very badly indeed.

Maybe. I never thought this would be very clean, but what are you afraid of in the end? That Al Qaeda will "rule" the mid east when its all over?

Nilsen · « **Reply #110 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:41:43 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
The attack on the WTC was merely symbolic? I'm sure there are 3000 families that will be relieved to hear that. Anyone that feels that attack was justified or deserved is an enemy of the US. We can tolerate enemies so long as they control their animosity. Strike out at us though and expect to be struck back, only much harder. Most in the US feel this way, not just us "neocons".

Are you saying that the family of those 3000 feels better if the attack was intended just to kill americans and nothing else?

AKIron · « **Reply #111 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:46:34 AM »

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Are you saying that the family of those 3000 feels better if the attack was intended just to kill americans and nothing else?

I'm saying that it wasn't a symbolic attack. It was a real attack in which a lot of people were murdered. That it was upon "symbols" of American pride further illustrated the hatred of the attackers towards all Americans.

Nilsen · « **Reply #112 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:48:58 AM »

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I'm saying that it wasn't a symbolic attack. It was a real attack in which a lot of people were murdered. That it was upon "symbols" of American pride further illustrated the hatred of the attackers towards all Americans.

Aha, nobody claims the attack was symbolic. Its an attack on the symbols. Huge difference.

AKIron · « **Reply #113 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:50:44 AM »

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Aha, nobody claims the attack was symbolic. Its an attack on the symbols. Huge difference.

I'm glad you acknowledge that. I believe there are many that would try to imply they are the same.

Nilsen · « **Reply #114 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:53:01 AM »

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I'm glad you acknowledge that. I believe there are many that would try to imply they are the same.

Of course i do. Hope noone has gotten the impression that i have said that it was a sybolic and not a real attack.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #115 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:54:52 AM »

Why are those buildings symbols?

Are two big grey rectangles a symbol of US financial power because they are big or because they are rectangular or because they are grey?

Nilsen · « **Reply #116 on:** June 27, 2004, 10:58:31 AM »

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Why are those buildings symbols?

Are two big grey rectangles a symbol of US financial power because they are big or because they are rectangular or because they are grey?

none of the above and now you just beeing difficult. maybe you should reboot soon

AKIron · « **Reply #117 on:** June 27, 2004, 11:00:22 AM »

I'm sure you know what a wedge is GScholz. Work a little democracy in gradually, give things time to stretch and adapt, and everything won't explode apart.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #118 on:** June 27, 2004, 11:00:53 AM »

I'm not being difficult Nilsen. What factor is missing up there?

AKIron · « **Reply #119 on:** June 27, 2004, 11:11:49 AM »

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Yes, the only problem with that is that you're using an armored wedge of M1A2s. And on top of that Al Quada will do their damnedest to make sure everything blows apart, like they are doing now in Iraq.

Of course they recognize our aim and are violently resisting it. But they were already fanatics and they did force our hand. I've said it before, I don't especially like Bush but I very much support him in this attempt to infiltrate the middle east with democracy. Great leaders attempt great things even if they sometimes fail. Poor leaders sit on their tulips and admire the scenery.