Author Topic: Al-Jazeera: Terrorist Mouthpiece or News? (Read 3084 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #75 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:20:55 AM »

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The refugees were victims of civil war. Nastiest form of war ever.

Why not just victims from serb hunger for land?

Nilsen · « **Reply #76 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:20:56 AM »

No point in discussing a subject when we both see it differntly and there is no chanse that any of us is gonna back down (and maybe we shouldt either).

Some think the goal was killing americans and some think killing them was not the main goal but a way to acheive a higher one.

I usually enjoy discussing these things but you grun, awmac and muckmaw cant seem to do so without resorting to namecalling and personal attacks. I dont take offence by it but trying to have a reasonable debate using them takes alot of the ejoyment out of it. I never do it even when im drunk so i don't understand why others has to either.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #77 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:21:50 AM »

I havent called you names, have I? In fact just readings over my posts I havent even attaxked you personally..

The closest I came was to say that I'm disturbed by some of your reasoning.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #78 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:25:14 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Because it wasn't just a Serb hunger for land. It was civil war.

Are the victims of 911 victims of a religious war? Or were they merely victims of rational political policy?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #79 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:28:19 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Nope. They are victims of a crime.

So to you 911 is only a crime?

Nilsen · « **Reply #80 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:28:25 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I havent called you names, have I? In fact just readings over my posts I havent even attaxked you personally..

The closest I came was to say that I'm disturbed by some of your reasoning.

True, i jumped the gun abit there and im sorry.

You are far from the worst and i i have no problem understanding that this topic stirrs up emotions.

Nilsen · « **Reply #81 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:31:34 AM »

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So to you 911 is only a crime?

The border between crime and religion are often verry fuzzy and often both are used to serve the others agenda.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #82 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:41:01 AM »

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A heinous crime, but yes, just a crime ... is it more to you?

Yes. I see it as part of a much bigger struggle between opposing world views. I think its dangerous to dismiss this radical extemist islamic movent as a bunch of criminals swatting flies in caves.. Maybe this lack of caution contributed to the success of 911 attacks... Obviously in hindsight it seems to me that we did not take this threat seriously enough across during the Clinton and early part of Bush #2 admistrations.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #83 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:51:24 AM »

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A bigger struggle between whom? Who do these terrorists represent except for themselves?

As yourself what are they trying to achieve?

Who does any enemy represent beyond themselves and their supporters?

Its kind of a nonsensical question, are you trying to say that they are not legitimate opponent because they are not the standing army or political structure of a single nation state or coalition of states?

Nilsen · « **Reply #84 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:55:55 AM »

Do you ever sleep grun? Are you really awake or do you "sleeptype"

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #85 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:56:17 AM »

Whats your definition of a criminal?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #86 on:** June 27, 2004, 06:57:29 AM »

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Do you ever sleep grun? Are you really awake or do you "sleeptype"

LOL I just graduated from college and have not started working my "real" job yet. Time and schedules have no meaning just now.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #87 on:** June 27, 2004, 07:04:08 AM »

Why dont we send the police after Osama?

Nilsen · « **Reply #88 on:** June 27, 2004, 07:08:23 AM »

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LOL I just graduated from college and have not started working my "real" job yet. Time and schedules have no meaning just now.

Oh that explains it. I think i have win98 code in my dna....i need to reboot from time to time or ill get very unstable.

Nilsen · « **Reply #89 on:** June 27, 2004, 07:09:05 AM »

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Why dont we send the police after Osama?

Isnt america supposed to be the world police?