Al-Jazeera: Terrorist Mouthpiece or News?

[Nilsen]

trolling?........me?

[storch]

Originally posted by Nilsen
trolling?........me?

Ignore him Nil he's a know nothing Nor..... er nevermind

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by GScholz
Your hook is as big as a CV anchor.

I use a net and sort out the goodies when i get it onboard. Unfortionaltly most of whats left are dead before i can release them again.

[GRUNHERZ]

So basically to you GS it seems therehas to be a nation state involved for it to be more than a crime...

[GRUNHERZ]

Then I suppose we must disagree on this point.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Then I suppose we must disagree on this point.

To me that sounds like a perfect ending to the thread!

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by GScholz
I suppose we must, but I still don't understand what you think they are if not criminals. Elevating murdering criminals to the status of warriors of some kind is wrong IMHO.

As for the actual word "criminals" sure they are, I have no problem saying that, they are scum. I just think it goes beyond that Beyond simply them being a group bent on breaking some federal laws. It's a worldwide ideological and political movement dedicated, essentialy, to the destruction of our way of life in, as they say, every country possible. I dont think it takes for them to set up a legislature or a border drawn on some piece of paper to make this group more than just a criminal or law enforcement nuisance.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by GScholz
I do not think that is the stated goal of Al Quada. I think you give these people far too much credit.

I wouldnt underestimate them. Plus blowing up our big symbolic buildings and killing us wherever possible is pretty much that. Didnt you say they were trying to destroy our normal lives by for example blowing up airliners, so people would not travel and not be free conduct business or move about freely?

Maybe I should ask you, what do you see their goals to be?

[GRUNHERZ]

So what do we do to stop them from winning?

Also, arent they are some ambitious criminals?  Trying to take over one of the world's most strategically importanat resource areas...  Is any of that really illegal?  

Jokes aside, your explaination is exactly a part of the reason  I consider them to be much more than criminlas. Any group dedicated to rearanging the global power blanance on that scale is much more than criminals to me...

I largely agree with your response, but it again surprise me to see that even with that knowlege of their geopolitical goals you still think they are just criminals.

Basically to me the mere term "criminal" downplays the far ranging threat that Al Qaeda poses.

[Pongo]

so eagler says people on this BBS want to kill his family. someone says who. and then others start posting pictures of 9/11.
Are they saying that these people on this BBS that want to kill eaglers family also where involved in 9/11?

Greenhurtz if your just about finished school, why not take 3 years off to join the infantry and take the war to the terrorists?

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Pongo
so eagler says people on this BBS want to kill his family. someone says who. and then others start posting pictures of 9/11.
Are they saying that these people on this BBS that want to kill eaglers family also where involved in 9/11?

Greenhurtz if your just about finished school, why not take 3 years off to join the infantry and take the war to the terrorists?

After I dropped out of high school I considered joining the army or trying, somehow, to gain my education. I decided on the education. If I'm being honest I'm way to fat now to be of any use to any army..

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by GScholz
Arg! Will you stop adding to your posts after I've read them!

LOL I do that a lot, just think of new things to add.


Its funny how you say that we shouldnt equate Al Qaeda and the battle against them with "islam."

Obviously you dont speak for the left, but many Bush bashing leftits criticize and ridicule Bush for his "War On Terruh" for being too vague and not focused clearly on Islamics.

What do you think about that?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Obviously you dont speak for the left, but many Bush bashing leftits criticize and ridicule Bush for his "War On Terruh" for being too vague and not focused clearly on Islamics.

What do you think about that?

Ahem... the term is "militant Islamist".

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Sandman


Ahem... the term is "militant Islamist".

Thank You!

[Pongo]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
After I dropped out of high school I considered joining the army or trying, somehow, to gain my education. I decided on the education. If I'm being honest I'm way to fat now to be of any use to any army..

They can fix that. Is anyone too fat to defend their country against a threat they feel so strongly about?