Slaughtering Prisoners in Iraqi Jails

[XtrmeJ]

Originally posted by Crumpp
The prisoners where tied to a stake to be executed by firing squad.  Before the sentence was carried out a pig was brought out and slaughtered.  The ammunition for the firing squad was soaked in the pigs blood and the prisoners where allowed to watch the firing squad detail reach into the blood soak pile of ammunition and load thier rifles.

What was the point of killing the innocent pig? Am I missing something, or did Muslim extremist have a thing for pigs? Bastages

[VOR]

It would be nice (ruleing out all external factors and influences) to see what reverse psychology might do. Of course, it's only a daydream since it would never be possible to find out. In the real world, only the bad guys wear black.  

[Crumpp]

It's against Islam to consume pork, bro.  

Even today, in Afghanistan, the bad guys would ask if they could stop the fighting to bury their dead.  They believe a body must be properly buried and cleaned in order to enter heaven.  Being buried with a hog and shot with a pig blood soaked bullet means no chance to enter heaven.


Crumpp

[XtrmeJ]

Thanks for the info bud, I really had no idea hehe. I can see how that would really get a point accross. Not necessarily the best way, as you have said, but it does let them know we are serious. Some times only these types of measures can put an end to some charades. Doesn't work in all cases, and I wouldnt want behavior of the sort to be implemented in all cases.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Crumpp
Not saying it's the right thing to do:


But a young Major was faced with an uprising of Muslim extremist in the early 1920's in the Philipines.  After they brutally murdered a US Army soldier the US Army captured a few of the extremist responsible.  

They were tried sentenced to be executed by firing squad.  At their execution the Major made an anouncement.  Any Muslim that committed such acts would be meet the same fate.

The prisoners where tied to a stake to be executed by firing squad.  Before the sentence was carried out a pig was brought out and slaughtered.  The ammunition for the firing squad was soaked in the pigs blood and the prisoners where allowed to watch the firing squad detail reach into the blood soak pile of ammunition and load thier rifles.

All but one of the prisoners was shot with these bullets.  The surviving prisoner was ordered to dig graves for his compatriots.  Their bodies were placed in the graves along with the cut up remains of the hog.  The last prisoner was released and instructed to go back and tell his comrades that the same fate awaited them if they continued to murder US soldiers.

Major MacArthur had no further problems with Muslim extremist and for almost 50 years there was peace.

Crumpp

Never happened.. but nice story:rolleyes:

[Chairboy]

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

[Crumpp]

Didn't huh?  


The Catholic church was growing in power in the Philipines at that time which made the Muslim minority uncomfortable.  There were quite a few Muslim seperatist groups that formed and began to cause trouble for Philipine society.

I think I got the date wrong though.  I will check at work were the story is posted on the Unit bulletin board.

Crumpp

[Crumpp]

Well their you have it!

It was Pershing and only a threat.  

Anyway,  What I said about Muslim's in Afghanistan needing to bury thier dead within 24 hours after death is true.  It happenend to me.

So didn't having poor ignorant "taliban" fighters tell me they were fighting us because the Taliban said we would kill and eat their children, rape thier wives, and make them renounce Islam.  

One poor guy broke down into tears when he was told that not only was he lied too, but that we have freedom of religion in the United States and would fight for his right to practice his....

Crumpp

[Gunslinger]

Here's the Gunslinger's $0.02,

If they are holding a Marine and kill him you can be assured it will energize his fellow Marines.  

In Faluja ALOT of Marines became casualties in order to protect civilians.  They faught valiently like their title dictates they should.  I imagine every Marine in country would still do their job but I think they would be a little less sympathetic to Insurgents pointing weapons weapons at them.

The truth is I feel their pain because they are and will allways be my brothers.  I wish I was their with them and at the same time very glad I am not.  Semper Fi brothers.

Yup terrorism sucks because it works.  People have a reaction to the killing so they keep doing it.

I'm not sure if what I'd do if I was ever a hostage, I do hope I'd have the courage to spit in their faces and go down fighting even if my hands are tied.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Nazi's would have been proud of you...

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by muckmaw
Terrorists wove taken an American Marine Hostage and threaten to kill him have demanded the release of prisoners in Iraqi jails.

I know we have to take the high road here, and I don;t necessarily agree with it.

But what if we sent them a video of the prisoners they want released with guns to THEIR heads.

Kill your prisoners, and we kill ours.

I already know what some of you are going to say....

The high road sux sometimes.

Better yet, for every prisoner they murder, we blow up a mosque.

[Momus--]

Better yet, for every prisoner they murder, we blow up a mosque.

Looks like we have a winner in the retarded-suggestion-of-the-day competition folks.

[ravells]

Originally posted by AKIron
There will be a price to pay for murdering marines or soldiers horrifically on video. Their comptratiots will likely pay it when they attempt to surrender after a fierce fight.

I think that Iron has got it in one.

I'm sure the message of the marines' displeasure will make its way back to the people who are fighting them.

I'm trying to think of a single example where a coalition prisoner has actually been treated humanely and released and cannot. Are there any on record?

Ravs

[Crumpp]

Plenty of them have been released.  Some all the way from Gitmo, most within a few days of capture.

In fact it became time consuming and began to get in the way of hunting bad guys.

Each PUC "Person Under Control" released has to be picked up from the Military Police and transported to the location of his choice.  It's not the MP's who do the transporting. It's the combat units.  More than half of the PUC's taken in get released within a few days.  

It's no wonder people don't know what's going on over in Iraq and Afghanistan.  The Media is so biased and desperate to discredit Bush they have created a false perception of the ground truth.  I had to laugh when it was discovered that the LA times has link on one of the AQ websites...
It fits since the American Media is the best propaganda machine the bad guys have going for them.  And I mean down to outright LIES.  One battle, not a single reporter was in the area.  The papers report we killed almost 50 woman and children.  NOT one woman OR child was killed.  Two children were wounded.  A ten year old boy who father brought him up on the ambush line with him.  Like we take our kids hunting as a father and son bonding moment.  He was medevac'd immediately with a piece of shrapnel in his shoulder.  The second was a 14 year old girl who was grazed by a bullet in the arm.  See the bad guys used her front yard to put up a Machine Gun bunker.  So when we returned fire, the bullets would go through the house.  She was medevac'd also.  Both children not only lived but made a full recovery.  

In this case ONE reporter came out his hotel in the capital.  A local told him he knew the whole story about the big battle going on that day.  So the reporter promply took it down and the other reporters got their info from him.


Crumpp

[Crumpp]

BTW,

Contrary to the Media created perception they are all treated humanely.

The are feed and kept healthy.  They are not always kept comfortable.  At least not once their status is determined.  If they are bad guys, life is not comfrotable but it is humane and they are kept healthy.  If they are not a bad guy but just a poor guy in the wrong place at the wrong time then they are kept comfortable until we can transport them back within 48 hours of thier status change.

PUC's are not taken in for no reason, folks.  These are people who doing bad things.  Most of them are caught in the act. Quite a few come from the host nation forces and not coalition forces.
Some of them just have stuff like rocket's and explosives in their house.  You think somebody might want to question them and find out why they have 50 rpg rockets??

Crumpp