Author Topic: Slaughtering Prisoners in Iraqi Jails (Read 2485 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 28, 2004, 08:13:13 AM »

hey.. xtoronto believes everything in a m moore movie.. his hate for the U.S. knows no bounds but he ends up looking foolish... story of his life.

lazs

muckmaw · « **Reply #31 on:** June 28, 2004, 08:28:52 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
hey.. xtoronto believes everything in a m moore movie.. his hate for the U.S. knows no bounds but he ends up looking foolish... story of his life.

lazs

We've got alot of that on this board these days.

I'm afraid this board may be a microcosm of the world, too.

Crumpp · « **Reply #32 on:** June 28, 2004, 08:54:12 AM »

The problem with a Democracy is that the citizens have a duty to stay informed on the issues at hand since they have an informed say in Government.

Unfortunately what you see in the Western World is people spending less than 1 percent of their time viewing extremely biased media reporting and 99 percent of thier free time spent watching things like South Park.

During that 1 percent they form all of their opinions on all issues both foreign and domestic.

Crumpp

Thrawn · « **Reply #33 on:** June 28, 2004, 08:55:24 AM »

Once again for the truely stupid who keep on wishing to deny it. American soldiers beat a man to death at Abu Ghraib.

Crumpp · « **Reply #34 on:** June 28, 2004, 09:05:48 AM »

No Thrawn they didn't. But you have the guy convicted and sentenced already.

The Media reported that. The man accused of that was arrested just across the street from where I work. It will be interesting to see the trial outcome.

The other side of the story is the guy died of a heart attack in his cell with no else present. His heart condition is verified by the Doctor that did his physical exam when he was taken into custody and is backed up by his relatives who are witnesses for the defense.

Crumpp

muckmaw · « **Reply #35 on:** June 28, 2004, 09:16:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Once again for the truely stupid who keep on wishing to deny it. American soldiers beat a man to death at Abu Ghraib.

I thought liberals were all about Due Process and "Innocent until Proven Guilty".

Did I miss the trial?

Of course, if we never went to Iraq, this Iraqi would still be alive, right?

Unless, of course, he became one of the tens of thousands of people Saddam tortured and killed as a matter of policy at Abu Gharib.

Bodhi · « **Reply #36 on:** June 28, 2004, 09:29:02 AM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Nazi's would have been proud of you...

If you are directing this towards Gunslinger, you are the biggest prettythanghole walking this planet...

muckmaw · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:25:21 AM »

Seems to be alot of reading comprehension problems here, huh GS?

Gotta go...I'm late for a "Party meeting".

We're practiving our goose-stepping today!

Now where is my brown shirt?

Thrawn · « **Reply #38 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:27:05 AM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
I thought liberals were all about Due Process and "Innocent until Proven Guilty".

Did I miss the trial?

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Unless, of course, he became one of the tens of thousands of people Saddam tortured and killed as a matter of policy at Abu Gharib.

You get five thumbs up for being so ironical!

muckmaw · « **Reply #39 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:28:05 AM »

Do I need to make a speech now?

Has anyone ever won the coveted Thrawn 5-Thumber?

ravells · « **Reply #40 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:34:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp
Plenty of them have been released. Some all the way from Gitmo, most within a few days of capture.

In fact it became time consuming and began to get in the way of hunting bad guys.

Each PUC "Person Under Control" released has to be picked up from the Military Police and transported to the location of his choice. It's not the MP's who do the transporting. It's the combat units. More than half of the PUC's taken in get released within a few days.

It's no wonder people don't know what's going on over in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Media is so biased and desperate to discredit Bush they have created a false perception of the ground truth. I had to laugh when it was discovered that the LA times has link on one of the AQ websites...
It fits since the American Media is the best propaganda machine the bad guys have going for them. And I mean down to outright LIES. One battle, not a single reporter was in the area. The papers report we killed almost 50 woman and children. NOT one woman OR child was killed. Two children were wounded. A ten year old boy who father brought him up on the ambush line with him. Like we take our kids hunting as a father and son bonding moment. He was medevac'd immediately with a piece of shrapnel in his shoulder. The second was a 14 year old girl who was grazed by a bullet in the arm. See the bad guys used her front yard to put up a Machine Gun bunker. So when we returned fire, the bullets would go through the house. She was medevac'd also. Both children not only lived but made a full recovery.

In this case ONE reporter came out his hotel in the capital. A local told him he knew the whole story about the big battle going on that day. So the reporter promply took it down and the other reporters got their info from him.

Crumpp

Sorry, I was being imprecise, when I said a coalition prisoner I meant coalition troops who have been taken prisoner, not prisoners of the coalition. So, to repeat my question:

I'm trying to think of a single example where a coalition prisoner has actually been treated humanely and released and cannot. Are there any on record?

Ravs

Ravs

Crumpp · « **Reply #41 on:** June 28, 2004, 10:50:47 AM »

No,

None of the Coalition troops that have been taken prisoner by these criminals have been released.

All the prisoners recovered, even those taken by the Iraqi Army when it existed, have either been rescued directly from captivity or have been rescued after their captor's abandoned them fleeing advancing coalition forces.

At least that I am aware of...

Crumpp

xrtoronto · « **Reply #42 on:** June 28, 2004, 11:35:09 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
hey.. xtoronto believes everything in a m moore movie.. his hate for the U.S. knows no bounds but he ends up looking foolish... story of his life.

lazs

many of you should stop this bad practice of putting words in other peoples mouths....

I haven't seen f9/11 yet...I won't know what to think of it until I do see it tomorrow.

being critical of this administration and this war doesn't mean I hate the US - not even close

and for looking foolish...all I said in the thread was that muck's idea of sending pics with guns pointed at iraqi prisoners is dumb, and we have already seen worse pictures from the prisoner abuse scandal which didn't help anything. (pic of a prisoner with gun pointed at him is nothing )
I never compared it to these fu*kheads beheading someone..you did that and then try to infer that I said it (and compared it to the pic of a prisoner with a gun pointed at him)...that makes YOU look foolish.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #43 on:** June 28, 2004, 12:14:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Bodhi
If you are directing this towards Gunslinger, you are the biggest prettythanghole walking this planet...

Your opinion means less than nothing - get clue idot - I was referring to the sociopath who thinks it's a good idea to indulge in mass murder....except that you must take the "high road" otherwise hey - just kill - that's the answer!!!

Am off to vomit....

muckmaw · « **Reply #44 on:** June 28, 2004, 12:22:07 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Your opinion means less than nothing - get clue idot -

You idot...get clue...Iraq was neva a treat..just plane redekuluooos.