Originally posted by Gunslinger
to say the Bush's have a close personal tie with osam bin laden and the bin ladens is no different than saying the kennedys were tied with mob.
didnt Osama have like 20 brothers or somthing....arent they like the 3rd richest family in saudi arabia. Would it not be a true statement to say that its not all that shocking to see that the Bush family, who is heavily involved in the oil business would have ties with rich saudi oil people.
no question about that...and i believe that m moore was only establisihing the business association with the bush & bin laden families (going back to the 70's?) and i think osama is one of 47 kids
Second.....It wasnt Bush that allowed the Bin Ladens and other sauds to fly out sept 13th it was Dick Clarck himself......and after they were interviewed by the FBI.
incorrect.... papers allowing those several flights of saudi's was directly signed by GW himself and no, none of them were interviewed by fbi (that's why m moore said at that time, "Imagine if clinton had given safe passage out of the courtry for the mcveigh family after the oklahoma bombing, without anyone speaking to the mcveigh's?")
Third.....those minutes were Bush was reading to the kids was not when he was informed our nation was under attack... most people at that point thaught it was an aviation accitdent. It wasnt until the second plane hit that it really made sense.
he was told of the first plane BEFORE he went into the classroom...when he was advised in front of the kids (when the minutes tick by) is the news of the second plane having struck tower #2
The whole intro w/ the florida election centering around the all eveil fox news and the court stealing the election from Gore. No need to mention the FACT that every recount after the election showed bush the winner.
you are probably correct...but m moore's point was all the residents of florida whos vote was not counted for a variety of reasons...if memory serves 16,000 votes discarded in one area alone...(that's when moore showed all the residents who were affected by this addressing the house, all having written and signed letters and submitted letters stating the 'errors' and yet the votes were not counted and not one of those thousands of people could find one senator to provide a single signature)
African American voters refused thier right.....If this is true why could they not get ONE senator to sign their petition?????? Dem. or Repub.
no idea man...
The Iraq war.....I can show you just select images and posters of peacfull war protesters too and show you just how "peacfull" they are. Just as he did w/ US servicemen talking about killing and war then switching to dead civilians.
no need to explain about 'peace marches'...ive seen many that were anything but peaceful. my worst memory of a peace march going bad is kent state
C'MON this was entertaining.....but truthfull and daming...not one bit.
i agree that this movie was entertaining
thruthful?....truth has many faces; this is one
damning?....based only upon my 'reaction' and that of the audience today, i would have to disagree.
and comparing Moore to limbaugh is not all that far off the mark. They are both entertaining. They are both Highly slanted in thier veiws. and they are not allways accurate OR they both can spin very well.
i enjoy listening to limbaugh...i can see why a comparison would be made. the accuracy of f9/11 is going to come under intense scrutiny. he has ruffled alot of feathers with this movie and I suspect if there is any misrepresentation of information that he will be held accountable in a court of law.