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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2004, 12:37:56 AM »
Crumpp, thanks

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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2004, 01:53:27 AM »
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No Pork.

You see Rpm is a liberal. He likes Kerry. So its not OK to hate Kerry.

But RPM hates Bush, because Bush is not a liberal. So it's OK to hate Bush - also because Bush is Hitler and because Bush dated Osama Bin Laden's 4th cousin on his father's side sometime in the 1970s (according to Moore).

Wow, sorry I showed up late for the personal attack.


You are free (because people like John Kerry actually fought)  to have your opinion about Kerry. I am free (because people like John Kerry fought) to have my opinion about Bush.

You see RPM is an American and proud of his country. He was raised to know that he has the right to make his opinion public. He knows that blindly wrapping yourself in the flag doesn't make everything you do right, it prostitutes the flag. He stayed awake in history class and learned about people who did that like Joseph Mc Carthy. He also knows what a NeoCon is and thinks they are a danger to America's future.

Don't hate me because I'm a liberal. Hate me because you know I'm right.
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2004, 02:00:18 AM »
Can't we hate you because you are thin and rich?

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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2004, 02:03:29 AM »
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Can't we hate you because you are thin and rich?

I wish! :D
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2004, 02:39:55 AM »
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Originally posted by rpm371
Wow, sorry I showed up late for the personal attack.


You are free (because people like John Kerry actually fought)  to have your opinion about Kerry. I am free (because people like John Kerry fought) to have my opinion about Bush.

You see RPM is an American and proud of his country. He was raised to know that he has the right to make his opinion public. He knows that blindly wrapping yourself in the flag doesn't make everything you do right, it prostitutes the flag. He stayed awake in history class and learned about people who did that like Joseph Mc Carthy. He also knows what a NeoCon is and thinks they are a danger to America's future.

Don't hate me because I'm a liberal. Hate me because you know I'm right.


WHAT ABOUT MY IRONY?????  

CMON Bush is a putz and Kerry is an even bigger Putz.  You dont need to be a "neocon" to understand this.....just human w/ a brain.  Kerry isnt the only vetran out there....he's just one of the few who wrapped himself in the comunist flag vrs. the American one.  That's why I dont like him.


Plus he's a libral and they do more harm then good.

I dont hate you RPM  :aok

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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2004, 03:07:49 AM »
Gunslinger we agree on 1 point. Both are putz's. I'm just willing to give the other guy a chance.

BTW, I would have cast my ballot for Clark. I think he is better suited for the job than either Bush or Kerry.
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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2004, 05:59:57 AM »
Crumpp


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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2004, 07:32:58 AM »
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Hmmm...I think we should hear from the guys that really served with Kerry:

Swiftboat 94 Crew


Yawn,  not impressed.  None of those guys would condemn him as I wouldn't condemn any of my brothers in arms, not publically anyway.  Only people who have never served would be impressed with that propaganda piece.

 p.s.  

Just read your post Crumpp, thanks for posting that and thank you for your service to America.
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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2004, 07:41:53 AM »
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Originally posted by rpm371
Wow, sorry I showed up late for the personal attack.


You are free (because people like John Kerry actually fought)  to have your opinion about Kerry. I am free (because people like John Kerry fought) to have my opinion about Bush.

You see RPM is an American and proud of his country. He was raised to know that he has the right to make his opinion public. He knows that blindly wrapping yourself in the flag doesn't make everything you do right, it prostitutes the flag. He stayed awake in history class and learned about people who did that like Joseph Mc Carthy. He also knows what a NeoCon is and thinks they are a danger to America's future.

Don't hate me because I'm a liberal. Hate me because you know I'm right.


I don't hate you at all, but the changes you want America to take will only serve to weaken us further.  That is why I oppose your ideology.  You come from a point of view that people are basically good but history shows you are completely in error.

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« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2004, 07:52:49 AM »
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Don't hate me because I'm a liberal. Hate me because you know I'm right.


:rofl

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« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2004, 07:58:22 AM »
Neo con???  RPM... are you saying that we are all a bunch of former jewish liberals here?  I don't think so.

No, "neocon" is the lefty hate speech that they reserve for those  most despised  by them... the jewish liveral who finaly had enough of the lies and dumped his childish liberalism.

David Horowitz is probably the penultimate "neocon"   His book "Radical Son" shook the liberals down to their toes.  It is a great book about the radical movement... I was there in the same time and places and it rings so true it hurts.

notice the river only flows one way... liberals get smart and become conservatives not the other way around.   Jews in America are some of the smartest people here but they really have a hard time overcoming the stereotype they are raised in.  

Read the book RPM.

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« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2004, 08:20:39 AM »
Oy vey lazski!

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« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2004, 08:28:24 AM »
oh man....

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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2004, 08:42:51 AM »
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I'd vote for Kerry based on his looks before anything else.


Me too! I always wanted a lurch/ herman munster lookalike for CIC!

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« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2004, 09:29:19 AM »
Thanks all of you for the support, it really means a lot.  I did not post to receive personal laurels for my job, only to present another point of view.  In a Democracy, Soldiers are public servants; no one twisted my arm to take the oath.

Storch,

I completely agree with you about some views in American Politics weakening our conduct of this war.  Make NO MISTAKE.  The few truly bad guys out there ARE Evil Men with NO tolerance to live in peace.  They are patient men who are willing to wait for us to drop our guard.  They are intelligent men who will use the truth, albeit seen from their point of view, to weaken our resolve.  They have no mercy nor do they differientiate between soldier or civilian.  In their minds there are no innocents only those for and against.  

However, It has been my experience that the vast majority of people are good folks who all want the same things out of life, a decent life and chance to see their children grow up happy.  It is not the majority of people in the world that cause all the problems.  Just like criminals it is a very small percentage that advance political ideologies that in the end destroy that which is human.  Extremism, Intolerance, and Ignorance are the true enemies we are fighting.

To defeat them it is going to take money, blood, and time.  We have on our side an indefatigable respect for human life both the physical and spiritual, celebration of diversity, and basic philosophy that defeats extremism hands down.  

What our culture does appear to lack is the intestinal fortitude to invest the blood and the time necessary to defeat them.  We are talking about transforming an entire region of the world.  Removing the breeding ground of these dangerous philosophies and propelling the entire region into the 21st Century.  Just as 60 years ago in Europe and Asia, we are once again vying for the philosophical direction an entire region of the world will take. Things will get worse before they get better. There is much work to be done yet.  

Men like Kerry are a proven factor.  They have already demonstrated the lack of resolve needed to win this sort of conflict.  

On several occasions I have personally met Bush.  He has impressed me with his intelligent questions, empathy, resolve, and Leadership.  I say Leadership because many times I have seen Bush make decisions that are not good for BUSH but good for the country.   Whatever his shortcomings Bush has risen to the challenge of 9/11 and done a much better job of leading than I believe Kerry is capable of doing.  The last thing we need is a social chameleon whose makes decisions according to the popularity poles.

Crumpp