Pit bull apologists, wake up

[Cougar68]

That article brings up a fascinating point about dog's instincts.  I agree with the author that the standard argument of "no bad dogs, just bad owners" is BS.  All purebred dogs have a purpose for their life bred into them.  I have two rough collies and a border collie.  I've had my youngest collie since he was 8 weeks old.  He's never been around livestock of any kind.  Yet when I dropped him into a pen of ducks what did he do?  Ran around like a wild man until they were all in a neat circle.  His training and life experience went out the window and his instinct took over.  Same with pit bulls, expect the ducks would've been little bloody lumps in the ground.  

I'm as pro-dog as anyone can get.  I'm really active in the dog community around Nashville and work agility with my three.  However, you can add me to the list of people that want pit bulls gone.  I hate it for the dogs, they didn't do anything but perform the task they were bred for.  But for the good of all dog kind something has to be done.  

I want to add a side note about Rotties.  Rotties were originally bred for pulling carts in Germany and even served as herding dogs for large livestock.  It's only in recent history that they've been used for guard duty.  Their muscular build and size, coupled with irresponsible training and breeding, has earned them the reputation of being the next pit bull.  Anyone looking for a Rottie would be wise to seek out a reputable breeder that knows the dog's history and breeds to that standard.  

Cougar

[Nash]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
Shoot the dog and then shoot the owner.

'nuff said.

[Pooh21]

Its not the pitbulls per say, its the owner and the type of person 90% of pitbull owners are, criminal scum.

[Cougar68]

Originally posted by Pooh21
Its not the pitbulls per say, its the owner and the type of person 90% of pitbull owners are, criminal scum.

I agree with you to a point Pooh.  A well bred pit bull can still just go off at any point.  The big problem has come with these criminal scum as you say not just owning, but breeding the dogs.  The gene pool is completely screwed so now you have dogs that will not only kill, but are mentally unstable as well.

The same thing happened with Collies in the 80's.  Their popularity had peaked and back yard breeders were turning out inbred litter after inbred litter.  Collies were getting aggressive and unstable  and stayed that way until responsible breeding kicked in and the bad ones started to die off.

Cougar

[Nash]

Are Pitbulls a natural breed or the result of some experiment in breeding?

I dunno myself, but I would guess the latter.

A mutant spaz mutt experiment gone awry. Mange! Admit the mistake, kill the butterers and move on.

[RTStuka]

Originally posted by Curval
lol...I suggest you go back and read the past threads on this topic before you accuse me of being ignorant.

I'm not typing my own personal experiences out all over again.  Do a search and then come back and we can talk.

What can I do to be as cool as you...........


P.S.-Your still ignorant, just think about it, it will come to you.

[AKIron]

I have no problem with the dogs, I have a gun afterall. It's their irresponsible owners that inflict them upon a polite society in an environment presumed to be safe that I take issue with. Dogs are an extension of a person and that person should be held accountable as if it were their own hand conducting an attack.

[NUTTZ]

I've yet to see a mean Rottie. I've owned one ( passed away 2 years ago) Anyone have a male rottie for sale?

I was moving out of my old house into a new home in the burbs. OLD HOME: new neighbor moves in directly across the street w/ 2 HUGE Rottie's mean as could be, leaves them outside 8' fenced encloseur. Barks at anything that moves, took me 3 days and they where eating outta my hand.

New house: neighbors directly behind me have a rottie. My 4' fence separates my family from the dog, another mean SOB ( NOT fat drunk bastages) LOL, only took me 3 hours to "tame" him.

My Rottie was mixed with mastiff and weight just over 200LBS. Was the best dog I ever had. He would lay next to me at work by the store counter. Everybody loved my dog, one customer took him everyweekend to the jersey shore ( fugger never asked me to go). ANd took him occasionally to " collect" old debts.

So getting back to the point I never met a bad rottweiller.

YUP, thats the breed for me, I'm truely heartbroken and now i have a beautiful big fenced yard, I am looking for another male rottie.
BTW, I adopted him when he was 4 Never had a rottie before. So, In flies this Rottie from Michigan, My store manager wanted him ( I had 2 dobberman pups at the time) well I get this 3 AM phone call the rottie busted thru the bedroom door and he ran out of the apartment, the tranquilizers wore off and he had no idea where he was, just wanted OUT. I took the dog home that night traded him the 2 Dobbermans and never looked back. I had to put him down at 12 years old he just couldn't walk no more.

NUTTZ

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Nash
Are Pitbulls a natural breed or the result of some experiment in breeding?

Natural breed? IIRC, all domestic dogs descended from wolves.

[Slash27]

after a pitbull attacked a child last week, all attack dogs are now ilegal.

How do you define "attack dog"?



I've yet to see a mean Rottie. I've owned one ( passed away 2 years ago)

I lost mine 2 years ago this month. Ive never known a better dog than he was. I still havent been able to get another dog after losing him. When I do it will be a Rott. I cant say enough about how great these dogs are. But alot of dogs tend to be great.

[majic]

Cats are better.


(runs)

[Dago]

I always viewed buying and owning a Pit Bull as a way some people try to compensate for their feelings of inferiority.

Male Pit Bull Owner = Small noodle.

Something along those lines.

Trying to buy some tough guy self esteem with a dog is pretty sad.

Of course, I see Harley Davidsons as a pretty similar thing.  


dago

[storch]

Originally posted by majic
Cats are better.


(runs)

yes they are because one does not become attached to them.  when one of my cats die I weight the carcass down and toss it in the lake.  It keeps the fish around and makes for good fishing.

[Udie]

Originally posted by RTStuka
Yeah and the same should apply to the idiots of this world who post things on the BB that is ignorant and usless to anyone who wants to have a decent conversation.

this has to be the best reply in this whole thread.  When did Curval pee in your cherios?

 then followed by

Originally posted by RTStuka

What can I do to be as cool as you...........


P.S.-Your still ignorant, just think about it, it will come to you.

 You could NEVAR hope to be 1/15 as cool as Curval.

[Kanth]

and the level of licensing should include whether the person has been or is part of a gang, has been convicted of criminal behavior etc etc...

any instances of a pitbull running free should be followed by it immediately being put down and the owner fined heavily. (this goes for any large or potentially dangerous animal)

I have nothing against pitbulls, I don't think they are especially mean, I think they have the gear to do severe damage to people or other animals and
I'm certain that a majority of their owners are training them to attack or be aggressive in some way.

unfortunately people don't usually get pit bulls just because they look neat.

They could outlaw them entirely and let the breed die off, not a big deal there are plenty of breeds to choose from.

Then the second highest fatality causing breed will come into focus...as they are trained by criminals to attack.

Originally posted by Sandman
require another level of licensing (complete with additional training and mandatory liability insurance) before a pitbull can be owned.