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Offline Chairboy

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« on: July 07, 2004, 11:48:19 AM »
His latest appointee believes women should be subservient and that rape can't cause pregnancy.

http://166.70.44.66/2004/Jul/07072004/utah/181590.asp

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2004, 01:25:43 PM »
What a surprise. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2004, 01:32:32 PM »
"It gets pretty bad around here" when lawmakers condemn Holmes for quoting the teachings of St. Paul the Apostle."

Exactly
Whatever happened to religious tolerance?  Looks like a smear campaign by anti-christian bigots.

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2004, 01:36:45 PM »
hmm

a paper he wrote about "his beliefs" for his church flyer is  the source of this scuttlebutt?

I think he can separate his "personal beliefs" from his "political ones"

where have I heard that before? LOL

I think the fact he is anti abortion is the real issue - of course these are just his "personal beliefs" - LOL
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2004, 02:05:52 PM »
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...Whatever happened to religious tolerance?  Looks like a smear campaign by anti-christian bigots.


It is fine to practice whatever set of beliefs you wish.  That is not the issue.  

The issue is one of power.  I do not want desicions made with reguard to laws and their interpretations based on a specific religious preference or outlook.  

It seems to me someone who holds the views espoused in the above article would have difficulty leaving his "beliefs" at home.



It, imo, smacks of a precursor to some quasi-taliban type of crap.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2004, 02:13:24 PM »
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I think the fact he is anti abortion is the real issue - of course these are just his "personal beliefs" - LOL


It's perfectly okay for Holmes to be anti-abortion just as long as he's not anti-choice as well. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2004, 02:14:03 PM »
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I do not want desicions made with reguard to laws and their interpretations based on a specific religious preference or outlook.


As opposed to someone who makes up their morals as they go along, choosing whatever values are politically expedient or trendy?

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2004, 02:14:37 PM »
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It's perfectly okay for Holmes to be anti-abortion just as long as he's not anti-choice as well. ;)


Thank You, Candidate Kerry.  :D

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2004, 02:18:22 PM »
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Thank You, Candidate Kerry.  :D


I know a few people that are personally against abortion, but they do not feel that it's the governments place to make this sort of decision. They are therefore, pro-choice.

If you feel that abortions are morally repugnant, don't get one. The current pro-choice legislation allows this freedom.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2004, 02:22:12 PM »
I think that description fits me pretty well. But I strongly feel feel abortions should be limited to the early stages of pregnancy with excetions to serious health concerns for the mother.

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2004, 02:23:04 PM »
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I know a few people that are personally against abortion, but they do not feel that it's the governments place to make this sort of decision. They are therefore, pro-choice.

If you feel that abortions are morally repugnant, don't get one. The current pro-choice legislation allows this freedom.


Sweet.  At what age do you suggest we disallow mothers from "choosing" to murder their offspring?  Provide a basis for your "choice".  Or does your "choice" policy apply to all homicides? :)
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2004, 02:23:13 PM »
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I know a few people that are personally against abortion, but they do not feel that it's the governments place to make this sort of decision. They are therefore, pro-choice.

If you feel that abortions are morally repugnant, don't get one. The current pro-choice legislation allows this freedom.


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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2004, 02:26:08 PM »
it is just another form of birth control - right?

as long as many do not see it as anything other than that, the murder will continue and our consciousness will remain in the dark ages ...

anyone truly believe "pro-choice" is enlightened thinking or just the pc way to think/act .. sad really
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2004, 02:40:17 PM »
Sounds like a hand picked Bush appointee. I seem to remember GWB running "I'm a uniter not a divider" as his campaign slogan in 2000.
Glad he didn't flip-flop. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2004, 02:45:20 PM »
Kerry eats babies!