Author Topic: Will Kerry run YOU off the road? (Read 2030 times)

Capt. Pork · « **on:** July 12, 2004, 07:28:22 AM »

Taken from Car and Driver Magazine:

Will Kerry Run Me off the Road

Very interesting article. Biased, yes, because it's written by a guy who probably likes horsepower... I'm guessing some of you guys do too, though.

What happens when he starts proposing limiting trips to the bathroom to only 'non-frivolous' functions?

lazs2 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2004, 07:52:08 AM »

well... now we know how he will pay for all the social programs (some of em anyway)... 50 cents a gallon tax on gasoline over and above the 35-50 we allready pay.

he will double taxes. The new (well...not so new) way for democrats to redistribute the wealth... Demonize something and then you can apply confiscatory taxes to it.

lazs

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:00:53 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
well... now we know how he will pay for all the social programs (some of em anyway)... 50 cents a gallon tax on gasoline over and above the 35-50 we allready pay.

he will double taxes. The new (well...not so new) way for democrats to redistribute the wealth... Demonize something and then you can apply confiscatory taxes to it.

lazs

Seems to me that with this system, the wealth is getting redistrubuted from the pockets of everyone, including people who don't have a whole lot to begin with.

lazs2 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:10:05 AM »

they will no doubt be susidized and get public transportation. Only the evil auto industtry and a few workers here and there will suffer.

Oh... and the oil barons that have been hiding the tech that will make for allmost free and clean power will go broke. Just like they hid the 300 mpg carburator from us... they are now hiding cheap hyrdogen fuel that will cost allmost nothing and the exhaust will put a rose on babies cheeks.
lazs

Curval · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:22:25 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
they will no doubt be susidized and get public transportation. Only the evil auto industtry and a few workers here and there will suffer.

Oh... and the oil barons that have been hiding the tech that will make for allmost free and clean power will go broke. Just like they hid the 300 mpg carburator from us... they are now hiding cheap hyrdogen fuel that will cost allmost nothing and the exhaust will put a rose on babies cheeks.
lazs

lazs...the "evil auto industry" and the "oil barons" have BOTH contributed to hiding the technology to which you refer.

BUT...you, my friend are contributing to this also.

What will become of your big block engine cars when you can no longer buy regular gas? Can they be converted? Do you even WANT them to be converted? What if such a conversion leads to you not being able to burn rubber at a stop light when some ricer in a hopped up Civic thinks he has a faster car than you? This seems to be terribly important to you...what if clean fuel takes this all away? THE HORROR.

Who will be to blame for this...democrats?

Shuckins · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:28:42 AM »

Approximately a third of all jobs in the U.S. are relatedly, in some way, large or small, to the automobile industry.

I wonder if Kerry knows that?

300mpg carburetor...giggle. One can only imagine the lack of acceleration...

lazs2 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:30:55 AM »

curval... the reason we are using fossil fuel is because it is the cheapest and easiest to use. If there were a cheaper alternative then we would be seeing some industrialist making a killing off it...

The use of fossil fuels will continue until it is used up to the point that demand for it is so great that price rises above alternative fuels. You may be able to artifically bring this date a little closer with confiscatory taxes but not much... eurpope allready has confiscatory taxes and they aren't alll driving alternative fuel vehicles.... only the people suffer in europe.

I am doing the world a favor by burning copious ammounts of fuel... I am doing more than you gas sipping tax paying liberals who only prolong the pain.

More patriotic people like me would bring alternative fuels to the forefront much sooner...

And... whatever takes over... if it rolls... it can be faster.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:34:17 AM »

for you who are terminally naive... the 300mpg carb is a joke... it is m moore tin foil hat stuff. It was allways rumored that the industry could build cars that got 300 mpg but they didn't do it so that we would all have to pay at the pump...

course... that would mean that all the euro auto manufactures were in on the conspiracy or.... that only the U.S. knew enough about cars to build such a carb... that we were so advanced over the euros and japs.

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:37:31 AM »

lol....lazs you can justify anything man.

Coolridr · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:39:00 AM »

Even as an E-6 in the Navy. An increase in gas taxes would make it hard for me to afford to even drive to work. Am I to be forced into spending even more money to replace my cars with some tiny ugly hybrid? Who the F*ck is he to decide that any of us are doing frivilous driving? Some places it's just not safe to walk anywhere at night some even during the day.. And for rich prettythangholes like him an increase wouldn't affect him anyway so of course it sounds like a good idea. WE DO NOT NEED TO GENERATE REVENUE THAT BAD! This country's government is in ABSOLUTELY no danger of ever going broke. Maybe get rid of some expensive socialist oops I mean social programs, and we wouldn't require so much money to operate.
I really don't care much about the environmental impact my cars have. I will ,even if I have to steal gas because it gets to expensive, be the last person on this planet to get an environmentally responsible car (electric, hybrid, fuel cell). In fact I think I'll go take the cats of my cars today.

WHat a f*uckin' D!CK

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:39:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
lazs...the "evil auto industry" and the "oil barons" have BOTH contributed to hiding the technology to which you refer.

I want to see proof that this technology exists.

Furthermore, I want to see proof that this technology is more efficient on the fuel-source production end of the equation than fossil fuels.

But beyond all that, I think the real issue is the approach Comrade Kerry is thinking of taking regarding the problem. 'Frivolous trips'? Since when is it the president's business how often I feel like driving to the video store to rent porn?

Curval · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:45:29 AM »

Here's one example...but the cars don't make big "BRUM BRUM noises" and the tires won't smoke

Americans for the most part will not embrace this type of technology.

You guys like to think you are all "environmental" in everything you do, but you refuse to let anything get in the way of your enjoyment of cars as they are now.

I didn't bring up the technology...lazs did. He knows about it...but you'd never see him in an electric hybrid.

lazs2 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2004, 08:53:38 AM »

curval...electric hybrids are more expensive and the cost is not made up. Would you suggest tax breaks or incentives for idustry that uses em? "corprate welfare"?

I am not against this but hybrid cars are not alternative cars. They use petroleum and only prolong things at the expense of every person out there.

you would artificially increase the cost of fuel to make it feasable to drive hybrids. When the tech catches up is the time to switch not before.

And... it doesn't matter what the new car is... mine will be faster than yours.

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2004, 09:06:04 AM »

lazs...you didn't look at this hybrid carefully. If it is so expensive why are Puralator Courier, London Taxis and a number of other transporation companies making deals with these guys?

Yes it does use traditional fossil fuels, but the gas savings are staggering once the "kit" is fitted onto existing brands of cars.

It is NOT expensive...that is the point. But, it is easy to dismiss such things based upon demonising arguments...wait...that is YOUR argument above!!!!!! You are guilty too lazs...imagine that?

Yes, you will ALWAYS have a faster car than me. I care about as much as someone always being a better AH pilot than me. They are also more "manly" than me I guess.

lazs2 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2004, 09:15:41 AM »

No... you miss the point. If these things are so cheap to build then the market will create itself. if they are cheap and cheap to run they will have an instant market.

The ones we are seeing are extremely expensive and do not perform anywhere near as well as advertised.. they get hardly any better milage than economy conventional cars.

People will flock to buy em. That is fine with me. If they are any good they deserve to have their place... I might buy a used one to get around in but I would still put 10k miles a year or so on Hot Rods and burning rubber. And... they would be even more fun in such a sea of drab.

point is... the day of the carb has come and gone... there never was a 300 mpg carb.

no one is hiding technolodgy. It is a matter of cost. when the cost of all that extra junk to make a hybrid goes down (and it's replacemnt cost) then you will see more of em.

that is not what you and kerry want tho... you want to artificially drive up the cost of fossil fuels so that the hybrids don't seem so painful.

For now... I am happy that you euros are getting screwed at the pump and not us.

I don't know what your point is other than you want to force technolodgy or... you think it is somehow hidden from us?

by force you mean make us all pay for it and by hidden you mean "look at me i will be the only one saved cause I have a tinfoil hat".

lazs