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[midnight Target]

OMG Westy! Is this the same KenJr. that we did a flyby for in honor of his dad?

[Westy]

Yeah Midnight Target.  One and the same.  His Dad, Ken SR,  was certainly real and old enough to have served in WWII but the USAAF stories about him were all made up.  Complete rubbish.



edited to add:


lol.  Even as late as last year he was still at it.

http://www.hiredguns-hq.com/guns/LinksPages/KenSr.htm


even found a picture of the bastard

http://www.hiredguns-hq.com/guns/PhotoGalery/tibbets.jpg

[storch]

Originally posted by CyranoAH
nor 599

LOL

[Trell]

Originally posted by Jackal1
No, what it shows is common logic. It would only be "you" that lost again. It will not add up anyway you look at it.

 Have you ever been stung like this?
Have you ever got stuck with a lemon from GM , Ford, etc and weighed the costs of attorney fees to recoup against the loss you allready have invested and decided to take the loss?
  Have you ever gotten a bill from a utility company that`s was incorrect and was not your charges and in the end paid the bill because it was less hassle and less expensive than persuing the options?
  Have you ever booked a flight with a prominent airlines only to arrive at the terminal and find you are not listed on the passenger list?
  If none of these has ever happened to you , then you must be very, very young. Either that or I want to know how you are getting the internet service from deep within the amazon jungle.

No i have never had a lemon car,  but there are laws for that in the books,.

Yes i have had utility charges that were wrong.  And you know what i did, I called and complained, Sent documantation to back up my side.

I am sure i have been over charged on small things but It was not important enough for me to even worry about it.

Booked a fligjt?  That is y there are travel agents,  You know the servise intersty  is great, If you quit trying to cut corners to save your buck, and work with in the systems  you wont have too many troubles with the airlines.



Maybe I Grew up in a family that taught personal responsibilty. Rather then blamming my screw ups on every one else.
maybe your common logic is everyhitng you do is everyone else's fault, that you are perfect.  If knowing my mistakes and dealing with them is the amazon then thank god i am there insted of the world you live in.

[Lizking]

Rather then blamming my screw ups on every one else.


This is exactly what your Bud Voss is doing.

[storch]

Originally posted by Jackal1
No, what it shows is common logic. It would only be "you" that lost again. It will not add up anyway you look at it.

 Have you ever been stung like this?
Have you ever got stuck with a lemon from GM , Ford, etc and weighed the costs of attorney fees to recoup against the loss you allready have invested and decided to take the loss?
  Have you ever gotten a bill from a utility company that`s was incorrect and was not your charges and in the end paid the bill because it was less hassle and less expensive than persuing the options?
  Have you ever booked a flight with a prominent airlines only to arrive at the terminal and find you are not listed on the passenger list?
  If none of these has ever happened to you , then you must be very, very young. Either that or I want to know how you are getting the internet service from deep within the amazon jungle.

Most of these folks don't seem to have real world experience, have never heard "throwing good money after bad" or are militantly ignorant.  That's what makes this BB so interesting!!

[Habu]

Originally posted by Westy
Ken Strohm (aka KenJR)  snip

 KenJR is still out there in the WWII flightsim community afaik.  In FA I think.  But over the past 6 years I know I cost him far more business than he ever made off of me. And that serves as my justice.

I actually know that guy. He was playing Fighter Ace back when I did about 3 years ago. He came into the game and got really involved with all sorts of suggestions and offers to help.

I don't know if he is still there but fascinating to hear your experience.

[lazs2]

redtail.. sorry, was probly an inside joke..  gunman 26 left in a huff but came back as gunman 42 because "I am twice as good now and 2 times 26 is 42 you idiots!".

lazs

[Flit]

Originally posted by Voss



8. TAS is gone.

TAS, as it was, will never be. The ideas created by ME were stolen and incorporated in games like Aces High, and WWII Online. If any of you were around then (and many of you claim to have been) then you should know this. Which of you broke the agreement of the non-disclosure contract you signed? Oh, wait, Hobutt released you from it, didn't he? You should know a little more about the law then. He doesn't have the right to summarily modify a contractual agreement after the fact.

You continue to attack my handle and name. Yet, in truth you owe me a thanks for all the great ideas without which you would find yourself playing WarBirds to this day. Yes, I believe HT stole my ideas through losers like you.

Have a nice day.

 This is all I need to see.
 If anyone doubts the story after this post,well I'll leave it at that.
  So Voss, how well do you know Wild Bill?

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by flyingaround
If the Hornets care not about "honor" or "respect" then of course you won't care.  The case against metavoss is crystal clear.  Any squad with the slightest whiff of integrity would have booted metavoss out immediatly upon discovering his past.  The Hornets can of course fly with who they choose, BUT it does speak volumes about your squads character.

Of all the properties which belong to honorable men, not one is so highly prized as that of character.
--Henry Clay

No man who is corrupt, no man who condones corruption in others, can possibly do his duty by the community
--Theodore Roosevelt

Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud.
--Sophocles

All honor's wounds are self-inflicted.  
--Andrew Carnegie

Laws control the lesser man. Right conduct controls the greater one.
--Chinese Proverb

He that is good, will infallibly become better, and he that is bad, will as certainly become worse; for vice, virtue and time are three things that never stand still.  
--Charles Caleb Colton

The reality is, if we tell the truth, we only have to tell the truth once. If you lie, you have to keep lying forever.
--Rabbi Wayne Dosick

Man's character is his fate.
--Heraclitus

Integrity is the core of our character.
--L. Lionel Kendrick

I'm really pissed you didn't add MY quote to the ones you posted...see below  

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Staga
swooosh...  sound of irony just flew past your head  

LMAO Oh chit, typo

No prob lazs, no one's perfect (especially those certain posters lurking around here that think they are). I was just bustin your balls in good fun anyway.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Trell
No i have never had a lemon car,  but there are laws for that in the books,.

Yes i have had utility charges that were wrong.  And you know what i did, I called and complained, Sent documantation to back up my side.

I am sure i have been over charged on small things but It was not important enough for me to even worry about it.

Booked a fligjt?  That is y there are travel agents,  You know the servise intersty  is great, If you quit trying to cut corners to save your buck, and work with in the systems  you wont have too many troubles with the airlines.



Maybe I Grew up in a family that taught personal responsibilty. Rather then blamming my screw ups on every one else.
maybe your common logic is everyhitng you do is everyone else's fault, that you are perfect.  If knowing my mistakes and dealing with them is the amazon then thank god i am there insted of the world you live in.

  Well I envy you then bud because you evidently live in a fictional "perfect world" that quite frankly does not exist.
  You and every person above the age of 12 has been scammed and paid the price. To say otherwise is just BS.
  Your claims of reporting, taking action at all costs and all expense to avoid or recoup from a misdoing  don`t hold beans. It just don`t happen. BTW, you are a pefect target for a good scam artist simply because you have the belief you can check backgrounds and facts on everything. A good scam artist could play you like a fine violin. This is the way things work in the real world. That`s the reason these folks can get by with it over and over again. The cost to recover losses over weigh the actual benefits and people are just not going , in the majority of cases, take more money out of their pocket to take the chance that these individuals will pay for their wrong doings. The system has loophole after loophole and these people know exactly where their line is to be safe.
  Is OJ Simpson actualy guilty? Positively.
  Was he found guilty in a court of law? Nope.
  Was millions of dollars spent trying to bring him to justice and make him pay for his crime. Ya damn betcha.
  Was these very prominent people involved in the loss of millions to bring him to justice scammed out of their money. Hell yes.
  Does these same people use every opportunity to get in print and on TV, the outrage of this happening and to spread the word that a threat still exists anywhere this murderer is allowed to live, mingle, etc?  Absolutely, and rightly so.  If and when O.J. ever loses it again,( and I truly beleive this will happen), he has the perfect defense allready built in by folks such as yourself that believes every thing is peachy in Happy Town and cry foul saying the victims could have avoided it and they are responsible.  Logic such as you have stated here is exactly what makes possible for the professinal criminal to continue to be just that. In other words my friend, you have allready been scammed by them into supporting the very thing that keeps them in the ballgame.
 Your example of "there is travel agencies" used above is hilarious. Travel agencies are a legalized scam taking money from folks for a total uneeded service. They far and beyond make more screw ups, with no recourse to the customer, than the average person ever will dealing direct with the airlines of choice, etc. In other words , if you live by your above stated beliefs, you have not only been scammed big time, but you also are to the point of supporting the scammer.

[mietla]

Originally posted by lazs2
redtail.. sorry, was probly an inside joke..  gunman 26 left in a huff but came back as gunman 42 because "I am twice as good now and 2 times 26 is 42 you idiots!".

lazs

[Shamus]

LOL Trell, time for a rebait dont ya think?  

(btw..he does know how to run a background investigation and has a bit of knowledge about the travel industry)


shamus

[GtoRA2]

Airhead
"Not pissed and not trying to be funny, GTO. Trying to be serious for a bit (life has been serious lately instead of fun, it's a cyclical thingie) and seriously- almost 600 posts condemning the 418th cause Voss is a member?

If he ripped you off, sue him. If you have knowledge he's conspiring to commit a crime, call the police. And if your respect for somebody has diminished because they're members of the 418th then get therapy, you need it.

Now have a nice day. Seriously."

I personaly was not condemning the hornets, but some of their sqaud members have shown themselves to be real low lifes. There are ways to defend a budy without lowering yourself to the level of a 12 year old.

I know I am not inocent on this thread and I have done my share of flaming, but I have tried to keep it to at least a semi mature level, and yeah in the grand sceme this thread is pretty lame. But I do agree with the people who think the Voss story needs to stay alive.

Voss is still around, therefore the people need to know just what kind of loser he is, much like the people living in a town should be told a child molestor is in the area. It helps the comunity help the scum bag to not hurt anyone again.

He has shown no remorse at all, and his threads in main were pretty digusting, he would try and con again if given the chance.


Sorry to hear life for you is not inspiring your sense of humor, you were a true artist!