Author Topic: The VOSS CONSPIRACY... fascinating new book (Read 133092 times)

Murdr · « **Reply #1485 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:01:10 PM »

Lol AKAK, he called you VMPR

Grizzly · « **Reply #1486 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:08:07 PM »

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Originally posted by AWBrat
I haven't touched a flightsim in probably 4 years now? Any ACM I had is pretty much gone...I priced a few sticks the past few days and am thinking about it...but the demise of AW seriously broke my heart...I loved that game with a passion...and I don't know if I can bring myself to start all over again.

Terrific post Brat! You nailed it, AW was about the people, something that was so little understood by the masses. The "old farts" created a world for us, and seeing them coming back together now is incredible. It was also about our relationship with the creators of AW. And even though he refuses to fix that damned clipboard thingie, HiTech is one with whom we can relate (screw EA).

See you in the arena buddy =o)

Grizzly · « **Reply #1487 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:12:32 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Was a member of that TopGunz squad.

Looks at AWBrat.

Man That guy sucks.

See now it has already happend nothing to fear any longer.

HiTech

Might you also happen to be that dillweed camper TopGunz in AH?

Grizzly · « **Reply #1488 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:14:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Habu
I am sure you have it around. You would not let anything valuable like that get deleted.

Hiyas Habu =o)

AWBrat · « **Reply #1489 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:21:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Having gotten to know Brat via AW I got to learn about his Grandfather who was a B24 Squadron Commander in the Pacific with the 63rd BS, 43rd BG 5th AF. And I was honored to be able to visit his Grave at Arlington National Cemetary with my daughter a few years back. Those things meant far more then anything in the game.

But don't let Brat kid ya, he was a damn good 'pilot'.

Dan/Slack
+Tiff

I can't even begin to thank you enough times for this Dan...and the living members of his squadron thank you as well...

If it hadn't been for you pushing me to find out more...I would have never known who my grandfather was and what his accomplishments were...

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From an article written by Lee G. Miller, Scripps-Howard Staff writer

43RD HEAVY BOMBARDMENT GROUP, Clark Field, Luzon, P.I. (by air mail)

The B-24 that made this particular reconnaissance mission to Hainan doesn't even have a nickname. It's a new ship and nobody has got around to naming it.

Maj. ALBERT W. BROWNFIELD, the commanding officer or
"Wheel " of the Seahawks Squadron, 43rd Heavy Bombardment Group, Fifth Air Force, sat a little sleepily on the edge of his cot and told about it.

We were five hours out, and near Hainan. It was about 4 P.M. when we broke out of a cloud right on the tail of three Nells. ( A Nell is a two engine Jap fighter-bomber)

They opened up with their top guns, I don't know whether they hit our ship or not----it was dark when we got in.

When our 50's opened up the Nips scattered and ran, two of them were smoking.

Three or four minutes later several single engine fighters got on our tail. We ducked in and out of the clouds for about fifteen minutes and finally gave them the slip.

Welch was piloting at this time.

A couple of hours later we were going up the west shore of Hainan Island when we sighted a tanker---one of the biggest I have ever seen---she must have been 7,000 tons---and some smaller ones. We circled---I was piloting now---and definitely identified them as enemy ships.

So we made a skip bombing run. We went in at 50 to 100 feet and dropped two 500 pounders with delayed action fuses. At the same time our .50's strafed the deck---the Japs were throwing some small arms fire at us---and probably some 40mm stuff

One of our bombs hit amidships and one on the bow. The tanker caught fire---bad!

We took some pictures. She started listing, and in eight minutes she sank. We saw no survivors. There was hardly time for them to get their lifeboats off.

Then we went after the smaller ones.Welch was at the controls this time.

We made a run on a lugger; she was loaded with what looked like bales of cotton and she was camouflaged with grass and leaves. We skip bombed from 50 feet and hit her square in the middle---she disintegrated.

The third ship was a Sugar Charlie, that's a cargo ship of about 2,000 tons We had a heck of a time hitting her. On the first run our bomb skipped from the water clear over the top of the ship and went off in the water. But our tracers set her afire. Waller---that's Lt. John Waller of Boulder, Colorado, who was flying as nose gunner, really laid those tracers on.

We came around and strafed again, then made another skip bombing run and our 500 pounder knocked her whole bow off. Just to make sure, we made one more one and hit her smack in the middle. She blew up.

That may sound glamorous. but this kind of a boat isn't well defended---just small arms.

Another officer spoke up," What had me worried was that fighter runway on Hainan. It was right there, within sight, but they didn't send anything after us.

We had two bombs left, so we continued our search, but saw no more ships. So about 8 P.M. we dropped the remaining bombs from 1500 feet onto a seaplane base on Hainan We saw several large explosions. They threw a little flak at us , but it did no harm. So we came on home.

The nineteen B-24's of the Seahawk Squadron have already knocked off 21,000 tons of shipping this month, and the Squadron expects to beat the record it set in March---20 vessels aggregating 53,425 tons sunk (including a destroyer and a destroyer escort) and 4 vessels totaling 14,250 tons damaged.

The thing that worries the Seahawks is that the Japs may run out of ships for them to bomb.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1490 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:21:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Grizzly
Terrific post Brat! You nailed it, AW was about the people, something that was so little understood by the masses. The "old farts" created a world for us, and seeing them coming back together now is incredible. It was also about our relationship with the creators of AW. And even though he refuses to fix that damned clipboard thingie, HiTech is one with whom we can relate (screw EA).

Yup ... it's amazing how cohessive this community is.

Again, for the historically curious, here's what I wrote up when AW died: The End of the Beginning

-MZ- · « **Reply #1491 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:29:32 PM »

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Originally posted by AWBrat
That was the thing about Airwarrior...it wasn't the game itself that made it so great...it was the community that was forged from it...I mean seriously...I consider some of these guys my friends after 10 years, and I've only met ONE Airwarrior in ALL that time...

Cool post, but you did meet LMatt and I for E3, so that's at least two.

Hajo · « **Reply #1492 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:31:22 PM »

Vampi...where's Vampi???

AWBrat · « **Reply #1493 on:** July 23, 2004, 01:35:14 PM »

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Originally posted by -MZ-
Cool post, but you did meet LMatt and I for E3, so that's at least two.

Bah...Sorry MZ...I totally spaced that. Wasn't GP with us as well? If so, that's 4 that I've met, including Quarters. Can't remember if I'd met anyone else from the staff of AW when I met Quarters...and Jeff...if you post that picture...I'm flying to Mythic HQ and beating you over the head with a nerf bat...

Brooke · « **Reply #1494 on:** July 23, 2004, 02:25:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Quarters
He's up in Toronto now. If you can't get a hold of him I can shake the tree a bit.

Quarters, hello! I used blue.baron@verizon.net. If BB is no longer in Washington (where he was as of a couple years back), that probably isn't his e-mail anymore, so if you've got newer contact info, I'd like to give it a try.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1495 on:** July 23, 2004, 02:31:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Brooke
Quarters, hello! I used blue.baron@verizon.net. If BB is no longer in Washington (where he was as of a couple years back), that probably isn't his e-mail anymore, so if you've got newer contact info, I'd like to give it a try.

Last email address I have for him was aruond the beginning of '03 after he left MS: Luscombe1516b@hotmail.com

ghostdancer · « **Reply #1496 on:** July 23, 2004, 03:20:20 PM »

So did I miss it .. did Metavoss (Metatron) leave the Hornets? Did they remove him? Or did HiTech, having found him again, booted him like last time?

Notice that he is no longer on the roster for the Hornets (used to be on Busher's wing).

And any bets what his new handle will be when he finds a way to sneak back?

Meatwad · « **Reply #1497 on:** July 23, 2004, 03:54:42 PM »

Seems like I seen him in the MA not too long ago under VOSS. Dont know now if he is still floating around

ghostdancer · « **Reply #1498 on:** July 23, 2004, 04:11:43 PM »

There was a different person using that handle ... I think the newbie took it because of historical reference and didn't know we had our own "VOSS" here with completely different history.

Quarters · « **Reply #1499 on:** July 23, 2004, 04:16:00 PM »

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Originally posted by AWBrat
anyone remember "TopGunz?" Holy crap those guys had me frothing at the mouth for months

I was Iceman and I have the shirt to prove it.

TopGunz was cool. I rank it up there with the "OMG! The Mossies Have Guns!" and the 1991(?) Houston Con where DD and I figured out that the "WWII can not shoot down WWI planes and visa versa" code only worked for pilots. Had such fun taking down P38s with the gunner spot on a frickin' Brisfit.

My single best moment was the "unveiling" of the first AW:Vietnam "pictures" on Bigweek. I think Pasha still hates me over that one.

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I've only met ONE Airwarrior in ALL that time...

Good Lord! I can't be the only one you ever met, Brat. Didn't you meet Kitty once?