Author Topic: The VOSS CONSPIRACY... fascinating new book (Read 124407 times)

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1620 on:** July 26, 2004, 07:48:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
B-26 could stand in for the Betty, too. Man, I love a good betty flight.

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B26 is way too well gunned - hell, it has more .50's in its nose than the planes that'll be trying to shoot it down.

Ki-67 is too fast.

Only other option would be something like a Kate - but the bombers should have two engines as it's going to be a pretty long flight home. With a single-engine bomber all the Allies need to do is get the engine smoking and that's as good as a kill.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #1621 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:02:13 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Close ... right time period and part of the world.

Yes ... I've adjusted the number of bombers to take the armor of a 88 into account. But the 88 is the slowest, worst gunned bomber to work with ... and Vals and Kates are Navy planes.

Now you have the curiousity going. Java? Sumatra? Ceylon? Burma?

The Brits have a carrier they lost?

This map look familiar?

Dan/Slack

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1622 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:09:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Now you have the curiousity going. Java? Sumatra? Ceylon? Burma?

Well hell. You're close.

Rangoon.

This'll be quasi-historic ... a bit of a "what if" but still pretty close to what went on.

So it'll be a mix of RAF, AVG, and ANZAC vs. many, many Zeros. Yes, this means that the IJA will have better turning and better gunned planes than the Allies.

Arlo · « **Reply #1623 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:10:48 PM »

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Yes, this means that the IJA will have better turning and better gunned planes than the Allies.

Well that kinda sucks, eh?

culero · « **Reply #1624 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:18:44 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Well hell. You're close.

Rangoon.

This'll be quasi-historic ... a bit of a "what if" but still pretty close to what went on.

So it'll be a mix of RAF, AVG, and ANZAC vs. many, many Zeros. Yes, this means that the IJA will have better turning and better gunned planes than the Allies.

As it should be, kewl.

I did a Singapore setup once, found out what a Wildebeest is (LMAO what a turkey

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There at the last in AW3 we got an expanded cm command set that included plane-specific leth and tuff settings. Too bad ya don't have that here, you could de-tuff that 88 just rite.

culero

Guppy35 · « **Reply #1625 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:18:45 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Well hell. You're close.

Rangoon.

This'll be quasi-historic ... a bit of a "what if" but still pretty close to what went on.

So it'll be a mix of RAF, AVG, and ANZAC vs. many, many Zeros. Yes, this means that the IJA will have better turning and better gunned planes than the Allies.

P40B,E, Hurri I, II, Wildcat = Buffalo? Going to have something to fill in for Blenheims, or Hudsons?

Not really asking for all the answers since I know you are working on it, just thinking out loud so to speak

A Minnesota man who flew in the B of B with the RAF and then in the Far East in RAF Hurri's wrote a book called "Last Flight from Singapore" that talks alot about that time, so it's always fascinated me.

Good luck with it.

Dan/Slack

culero · « **Reply #1626 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:20:11 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
No Hogs. Mostly the Allies will have .303's and only 4 .50's.

Oh BTW, Tex pointed out I was wrong here, we didn't have Hogs in that event, it musta been a Hellcat.

culero

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1627 on:** July 26, 2004, 08:24:42 PM »

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Well that kinda sucks, eh?

And, actually, the Zeke is as fast or faster than much of what the Allies will have up - at least in level flight.

AW=B17= · « **Reply #1628 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:04:28 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo

Rangoon.

OK, Since DoK's events always have sub-titles... I ponder...

The Battle For Rangoon - "Hold the Crabs Please" ???

-W

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1629 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:11:12 PM »

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Originally posted by AW=B17=
OK, Since DoK's events always have sub-titles... I ponder...

The Battle For Rangoon - "Hold the Crabs Please" ???

-W

Rangoon '42 -- "The Sum Of All Hate"

AW=B17= · « **Reply #1630 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:15:26 PM »

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Rangoon '42 -- "The Sum Of All Hate"

I like yours better.... I just think about food too much.

-W

Arlo · « **Reply #1631 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:25:02 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
And, actually, the Zeke is as fast or faster than much of what the Allies will have up - at least in level flight.

OK ... so .. what yer sayin' is .... this is a scenario designed to punish the allied players. Gotcha.

AW=B17= · « **Reply #1632 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:34:41 PM »

For Arlo:

Stop baiting the poor man so he can get the work done!

For Dan:

Good job dood! We have "the vision" *and* the title.

For Dok:

Tough room this is turning out to be.

-W

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #1633 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:40:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
OK ... so .. what yer sayin' is .... this is a scenario designed to punish the allied players. Gotcha.

No. Not at all.

When the US encountered the Zeke in '42 it was a terror because the US planes at the time weren't as fast as the later F6F and F4U. They had to attack, dive away, and attack again. The British in the CBI theatre found the same thing flying the Spit and Hurri. But the British did very well once they adapted their techniques.

All this really means is the Allies won't be able to get away with winning by just getting 1 squadron of Hogs in on the bombers. They'll have to coordinate multiple squadrons; they'll need to disrupt fighter cover far from the target zone; and sometimes they may have to settle for hitting the bombers on their way home when it's "too late" - just so they can't attack the next "day."

Lizking · « **Reply #1634 on:** July 26, 2004, 09:58:32 PM »

Don't go throwing Spits in there! Looks like about 8 P40s and this:

26 Jan-30 Mar 1942 - The Japanese advance through the Far East. By the end of January, the RAF and other British and allied forces had withdrawn from Malaya and Singapore to Sumatra. Two weeks later, the enemy captured Palembang airfield in Sumatra destroying 39 Hurricanes in the process. By 18 February, the Allies had evacuated to Java. RAF aircraft in the area had been reduced to 18 serviceable Hurricane fighters, 12 Hudson, 6 Blenheim and four Vildebeest bombers. On 3 March, Allied forces began evacuating Java; those that remained capitulated the next day. In Burma, Japanese forces entered Rangoon on 8 March forcing the remaining RAF Hurricanes and Blenheims to move north.

VS all those IJAAF planes(no betties, either).