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Offline Nilsen

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« on: July 16, 2004, 02:39:36 PM »
Exciting and abit scary

http://www.minjok.com/english/index.php3?catagory=engl&code=24649

"Sailing Toward a Storm in China
U.S. maneuvers could spark a war.
By Chalmers Johnson

Chalmers Johnson's latest book is "The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic" (Metropolitan, 2004).

Quietly and with minimal coverage in the U.S. press, the Navy announced that from mid-July through August it would hold exercises dubbed Operation Summer Pulse '04 in waters off the China coast near Taiwan.

This will be the first time in U.S. naval history that seven of our 12 carrier strike groups deploy in one place at the same time. It will look like the peacetime equivalent of the Normandy landings and may well end in a disaster.

At a minimum, a single carrier strike group includes the aircraft carrier itself (usually with nine or 10 squadrons and a total of about 85 aircraft), a guided missile cruiser, two guided missile destroyers, an attack submarine and a combination ammunition, oiler and supply ship.

Normally, the United States uses only one or at the most two carrier strike groups to show the flag in a trouble spot. In a combat situation it might deploy three or four, as it did for both wars with Iraq. Seven in one place is unheard of..........."

rest on the link above.

And from Reuters http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5685348
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 03:07:19 PM »
wow....this guy calls the pentagon a bunch of neocons and then there's this:

"but the focus on China in a U.S. election year sounds like a last hurrah of the neocons. "


""defending Taiwan" is just a convenient cover story. "

cant this guy make a point without sounding like a libral dolt?

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 03:10:46 PM »
sounds stupid to me...

7 of 12 carriers in same place.. at same time....  Could be Pearl Harbour II (but this time with the CV's in the firing line)
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 03:13:13 PM »
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sounds stupid to me...

7 of 12 carriers in same place.. at same time....  Could be Pearl Harbour II (but this time with the CV's in the firing line)


totally agree with you but did you read how the guy had to write the article to get his point accross?

Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2004, 03:13:55 PM »
I think the ships will be on full alert and missiles ready.....just incase.

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2004, 03:15:30 PM »
not gonna do nothing if china decides to "nuclear test" the area of sea they happen to be sailing in...
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2004, 03:21:08 PM »
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not gonna do nothing if china decides to "nuclear test" the area of sea they happen to be sailing in...


I'm certain we have more nukes capable of hitting Beijing than Beijing does hitting Washington. I'm also certain that Beijing knows this and will avoid doing any nuclear testing while we are visiting.

Nothing to see here folks, move along. :)
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2004, 03:22:02 PM »
This sounds bad.

But thanbkfully we have a clear alternative - everyone Knows where Kerry stands when it comes to allowing asian communist agression. We will all be safe if you vote Kerry in november...

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2004, 03:24:40 PM »
did they say WHY they are doin that kind of exercise?

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2004, 03:25:41 PM »
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did they say WHY they are doin that kind of exercise?


Because Rumsfeld and Cheney are EVIL!!!!  ;)

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2004, 03:26:53 PM »
China said they they will take back Taiwan at all costs very recently. So I think this is a gesture of, "yeah right" to them.

Move along, nothing to see here, cough ***.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 03:26:59 PM »
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I'm certain we have more nukes capable of hitting Beijing than Beijing does hitting Washington.  


only takes 1.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 03:27:17 PM »
Makes ya wonder if perhaps Taiwan isn't about to delcare their independence.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 03:28:33 PM »
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only takes 1.


May take a lot more than one to penetrate our space based laser defense system. ;)
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 03:28:37 PM »
Do they have any Nukes capable of hitting Washington? Last I heard their best hopes were California.

Then again, lets just go the route of not having to find out.
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