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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2004, 03:31:37 PM »
Look at the other articles on the site.  Heavily biased.  A "slanted" view lols.

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2004, 03:34:18 PM »
To be honest, I thought that was an excerpt from his latest book mentioned just before the "article".
-SW

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2004, 04:11:38 PM »
The Chinese are going to wait till we are so dependent on them for trade (is there anything sold in this country for less that $20.00 not made there?) that when they move on Taiwan we will be hostage to our need for their goods and not intervene.  It's warfare in the 21 Century and they know how to fight it.  We don't.....

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2004, 04:19:25 PM »
I read a pretty good book about something like this.  It was called Invasion.

China had become so powerfull economically that it did not need anyone else and no one could stop it from expanding.  

First they took on Korea....invasion took a week and now they had ship yards currently building super oil tankers wich they converted to Super CVs

they eventually took on eurpoe and won and then turned there sights on the US w/ cuba being the launching point.  Really good book though but I cant remember who wrote it.

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2004, 04:35:11 PM »
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US Shrugs China Warning -
Will Sell Taiwan More Weapons
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7-16-4
 
The United States said it would continue selling weapons to Taiwan, shrugging off a warning from Beijing that any improvement in US-China relations hinged on America cutting military links with the island.
 
China warned Tuesday that Beijing was "gravely concerned" over recent US moves on the Taiwan question, pointing out that the situation was "quite critical," particularly over arms sales.
 
"Well, I don't know why one needs to talk about recent US moves," US State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said when asked to comment on the statement.
 
Boucher said there had been no change in US policy regarding China and Taiwan and vowed defence sales to Taipei would continue as enshrined in US law.
 
"We continue the sale of appropriate defensive military equipment to Taiwan in accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act," he said.
 
Senior Bush administration officials were quoted by the Washington Times Wednesday as saying a key reason for US military sales to Taiwan was China's missile buildup opposite the island.
 
That message was delivered to Chinese President Hu Jintao in Beijing last week by National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, in response to Chinese complaints about Taiwan, according to the officials, the newspaper reported.
 
Some 500 short-range ballistic missiles in China are currently aimed at Taiwan and US experts say they could destroy key Taiwanese targets with minimal advanced warning.
 
Rice reportedly told Chinese leaders that a weapons deal with Taiwan had been under way since April 2001 and was reaching the point of actual transfers.
 
Pending sales are expected to include Patriot anti-missile systems and P-3 anti-submarine aircraft. Taiwan also is negotiating to buy up to eight diesel electric submarines and several guided missile destroyers.
 
Taiwan's cabinet on June 2 approved a special budget of 610 billion Taiwan dollars (18.2 billion US dollars) for the purchase of advanced weaponry. A team from Taipei was reportedly in the United States recently to shop for arms.
 
The United States remains the leading arms supplier to Taiwan despite its shift of diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979.
 
Under a 25-year-old US law called the Taiwan Relations Act, the United States acknowledges Beijing's position that Taiwan is part of China but is bound by law to provide weapons to help Taiwan defend itself if its security is threatened.
 
China has repeatedly threatened to invade Taiwan should the island declare formal independence. The two sides split in 1949 at the end of a civil war but Beijing regards the island as part of its territory.
 
Cross-strait tension has been escalating since pro-independence Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian took office in 2000, and since his re-election in March this year.
 
Boucher said the United States was committed to its one-China policy based on three joint communiques signed by the two countries and the Taiwan Relations Act.
 
"We've opposed unilateral moves by either side that would change the status quo," he said.
 
"For Beijing, this means no use of force or other forms of coercion against Taiwan. For Taipei, it means exercising prudence in managing all aspects of cross-Straits relations," he explained.
 
Boucher reiterated US policy not to support Taiwan's independence.
 
"For both sides, it means no statements or actions that would unilaterally alter Taiwan's status," he said.
 
 
 
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2004, 05:07:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I read a pretty good book about something like this.  It was called Invasion.

China had become so powerfull economically that it did not need anyone else and no one could stop it from expanding.  

First they took on Korea....invasion took a week and now they had ship yards currently building super oil tankers wich they converted to Super CVs

they eventually took on eurpoe and won and then turned there sights on the US w/ cuba being the launching point.  Really good book though but I cant remember who wrote it.


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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2004, 05:15:53 PM »
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Damn, did they make everyone wear those funny hats? ;)


No they invaded the US on the CA coast and in the gulf.  Their armys made it all the way to north carolina until they were finally beat.  The US manufactured arsonal ships in record time to kill the chinese fleets.  Pretty good book though wish I could remember who wrote it.

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2004, 05:17:51 PM »
When ya think of it please share, sounds like I'd enjoy it.
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2004, 05:39:32 PM »
Poke the big dog with a stick... how smart.
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2004, 05:41:39 PM »
Of course we don't even know if this story is true. Anyone have an alternate source?
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2004, 05:45:25 PM »
Well, I found this:

http://www.cffc.navy.mil/dodrelease.htm

BUT, in my skimming I didn't find their ultimate destination.
-SW

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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2004, 05:57:11 PM »
BTW I've found nothing to back up the author's claim that 7 CVN task forces will be operating between China and Taiwan.  As near as I can tell, Summer Pulse is just working on the capability to sortie almost all of our carriers at once.  They are not all operating in the same area.  This whole thing is just more lefty AFDB paranoia, just like the selective service hysteria.  That website is almost certainly a communist front.
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2004, 06:00:26 PM »
Invasion

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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2004, 06:01:58 PM »
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BTW I've found nothing to back up the author's claim that 7 CVN task forces will be operating between China and Taiwan.  As near as I can tell, Summer Pulse is just working on the capability to sortie 6 task forces at once, not all in the same place.  This whole thing is just more lefty AFDB paranoia.  That website is almost certainly a communist front.


But Reuters isnt communits is it?

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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2004, 06:02:26 PM »
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Well, I found this:

http://www.cffc.navy.mil/dodrelease.htm

BUT, in my skimming I didn't find their ultimate destination.
-SW


Thanks SW, after reading that I get the impression that they won't all be deploying to a single theatre.
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