anyone wanna learn acm's

[Furball]

funny how someone offers help then immediately gets flamed.

"YOU CANT FIGHT ME GOOD AS! THEREFORE YOU NOT KNOW ACM! ME R L33T!"

community here going down the gutter, or already has.





If you want to learn, there are fine individuals such as GhostH in the TA. If i bother playing the game again i will always be willing to help you train them jaxxo. And I apologize wholeheartedly beforehand to those 'experten' for offering my inadequate services.

[B17Skull12]

I find ACM is more of a can't be taught kinda thing.  I found it to be more of a the more you die the more you learn.  No one person i think can teach ACM until teh "N00b" has a firm grip on how to do some and understands ACM.  You cant teach a "N00b" who only ho's hopw to use rudders alone.  He has to learn to use them through multiple deaths.

[TequilaChaser]

You can teach/explain a tactic to use for a given situation described. then follow it up with a 1 on 1 session in the TA or DA, and it is better to possibly have 2 seasoned flyers perform such tactic while the student is riding along as an observer.....

but there can be an unlimited amount of variables for any given situation, To teach all the variables is the hard part, this must come from gaining experience.

[RedTop]

I applaud your effort Jaxxo. Just a quick lil story here...I have no idea what ACM really is. I don't really no what an immelman vs. a split s is. What I do know is..Planes go up , down , roll left , roll right , and you can turn em with some rudder as well faster and tighter but youll loose more speed I think.

  Some one says that was a nice move..I have no idea what I did. Others say.."You suk" and I think well DUH:rolleyes: Then they throw that learn some ACM. I think ok I will when I figure out exactly what that is.

  I have a squaddie that has been flying a couple months or so. He wanted to learn a lil bit...So I said sure we can do that. But you know what? I have NO IDEA what I am doing more than 1/2 the time. None. I just try to not do what he did and try to get the baddie in front of me. So anyway...I take this squaddie for a ride into a furball. He is saying what a nice move that was..nice turn there..Nice this nice that. Heak I was just yanking and trying to kill Red guys.

  All this leads to this.....ANd you may flame as ya wish....BUT WTH is ACM...I know its manuvers..but what are they called..WHat types are what? I could be doinig COMBO Moves not yet known to man and have NO IDEA what they are?

[SLO]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Blowing past the merge running and screaming in fright does not equate knowing ACM.



I'm more than willing to help players learn ACM or the finer points of the P-38 but my work hours kind of make it hard.  




ack-ack

here is the 1st lesson for the Noobs.

See this man(girl) Ack-Ack, in the game you will usually find him much much higher then you, see thats what we call a PERCHER, his fantastic skills carry him to that height, when he looks down it looks like everyone running from him, but see here boys and girls, he is vision impaired, thats what happens when you hang at 25K + for too long, its that thinning blood to the head thing


yes I do Steve, was just buggin ya bud, just in case you came back with a witty response(christ I must be gettin paranoid   )

[flyingaround]

I'm in the Training Arena every day (usually) for at least an hour.  Heading there right now as a matter o' fact.  Anybody that wants help can email me, or grab me from the MA for some quick lessons.

[Murdr]

Furball, I hope you didnt mean me.  Jaxxo is a good stick and will take advantage of an oppnents mistake in a heartbeat.  Steve's question was hardly more than a friendly ribbing.

Skull, taking a new player and explaining a few basic concepts, followed up by some dueling with the trainer explaining what the n00b is doing wrong, and what he should be doing can take months off of their learning curve.  It works quite well actually.

[SLO]

Originally posted by RedTop
I applaud your effort Jaxxo. Just a quick lil story here...I have no idea what ACM really is. I don't really no what an immelman vs. a split s is. What I do know is..Planes go up , down , roll left , roll right , and you can turn em with some rudder as well faster and tighter but youll loose more speed I think.

  Some one says that was a nice move..I have no idea what I did. Others say.."You suk" and I think well DUH:rolleyes: Then they throw that learn some ACM. I think ok I will when I figure out exactly what that is.

  I have a squaddie that has been flying a couple months or so. He wanted to learn a lil bit...So I said sure we can do that. But you know what? I have NO IDEA what I am doing more than 1/2 the time. None. I just try to not do what he did and try to get the baddie in front of me. So anyway...I take this squaddie for a ride into a furball. He is saying what a nice move that was..nice turn there..Nice this nice that. Heak I was just yanking and trying to kill Red guys.

  All this leads to this.....ANd you may flame as ya wish....BUT WTH is ACM...I know its manuvers..but what are they called..WHat types are what? I could be doinig COMBO Moves not yet known to man and have NO IDEA what they are?

Red, I have fought your Spit5 some, you got excellent maneuvers and you handle it well.

one mistake I've noticed, please don't take this the wrong way, just tryin to let you see what I've seen.

Its not cause your in a TnB(Turn an Burn) plane that you CANNOT use speed.

learn the combo of speed and TnB

If I were you I'd look up Leviathon, Wldthing and Drex(not sure if he still plays)probable the best to show you the real strenght of the spit5

hope it helps

[Murdr]

Originally posted by RedTop

  I have a squaddie that has been flying a couple months or so. He wanted to learn a lil bit...So I said sure we can do that. But you know what? I have NO IDEA what I am doing more than 1/2 the time.  

RedTop, been there.  Thats a key point in trying to train.  Although I could put names to manuvers, before I began to give training in AW, I only knew what worked, I didnt know why, or even think about "oh, he is doing a hi yo-yo so I will do a..."
Even without knowing the whys and hows, you should still be able to say "you shouldnt pull up when Im comming at you like that..." or something of the sort.  I had to reverse engineer to be able to explain things to someone else.  If you do ever take the time to work backwards and figure out why what you do works, it helps your own flying though.

[SLO]

sorry for hijacking your thread Jaxxo....but some have it out for me:D

[RedTop]

Originally posted by SLO
Red, I have fought your Spit5 some, you got excellent maneuvers and you handle it well.

one mistake I've noticed, please don't take this the wrong way, just tryin to let you see what I've seen.

Its not cause your in a TnB(Turn an Burn) plane that you CANNOT use speed.

learn the combo of speed and TnB

If I were you I'd look up Leviathon, Wldthing and Drex(not sure if he still plays)probable the best to show you the real strenght of the spit5

hope it helps

Thanks SLO...Seems I get hooked up with Levi a few times..unfortunatly is is shooting me Same goes for Wildthing as well. Drex I havent had the pleasure of dying to yet.

And I dont take your comments as anything but helpful. I seem to end up slow faster than others I fight..I often find myself listening to that god awful buzzer for an entire fight.

I really enjoy both aspects of fighting. BnZ as well as TnB. Flying my favorite ride that I do ,tends to put me in that TnB stage more often. Which is quite ok with me. I do enjoy Fighting at alt tho. Trying to stay up there and keep the fight up there seems hard tho when most planes I fight can simply dive and be gone. Nature of FLying what I fly I guess.

Again SLO...thanks a ton for the sugggestions. I'll try to find these guys more often.

[SLO]

for one if you fight Levi or any other spit5.....take the damn AUTO TRIM OFF...and good luck with em, its the only way too learn.

and from your post you DO understand the spit5. Try alternating between Spit9 and 5, with the 9 you will be able to carry more speed into a fight, and the 5 for pure TnB enjoyment

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by SLO
for one if you fight Levi or any other spit5.....take the damn AUTO TRIM OFF...and good luck with em, its the only way too learn.

and from your post you DO understand the spit5. Try alternating between Spit9 and 5, with the 9 you will be able to carry more speed into a fight, and the 5 for pure TnB enjoyment

Actually, Levi uses combat trim...

[SLO]

Originally posted by Murdr
RedTop, been there.  Thats a key point in trying to train.  Although I could put names to manuvers, before I began to give training in AW, I only knew what worked, I didnt know why, or even think about "oh, he is doing a hi yo-yo so I will do a..."
Even without knowing the whys and hows, you should still be able to say "you shouldnt pull up when Im comming at you like that..." or something of the sort.  I had to reverse engineer to be able to explain things to someone else.  If you do ever take the time to work backwards and figure out why what you do works, it helps your own flying though.

well said Murdr, it is hard to explain backwards. But thats pretty good advice Red, listen to the man

[SLO]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Actually, Levi uses combat trim...

so do I, makes for a smoother ride IMHO.