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Offline DipStick

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« Reply #105 on: July 24, 2004, 04:07:34 AM »
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« Reply #106 on: July 24, 2004, 04:13:10 AM »
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Neh. Too much waffling, not enough getting together and getting the job done. Doesn't matter. Simple policy. Fug us again and the game is over. Suggest all parties rethink their stances.

Gotta play the nuke game the way it was meant to be. And if it leads to the inevitable destruction of the globe, well ... that's how the game panned out. We're crazy cowboys, man. You don't wanna fug with us, people. We'll throw nukes around like they were promotional frisbees at a Lakers game. Just sayin', Mohammed. Better not. :cool:


Ok, message is sent to all the fundametalist nutjobs trawling the flightsim scene :D
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« Reply #107 on: July 24, 2004, 04:25:55 AM »

Then my work here is done.
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« Reply #108 on: July 24, 2004, 05:40:50 AM »
lol..

signing off this thread. time is better spent on the boat (to hot and humid to spend time ont he pc)
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« Reply #109 on: July 24, 2004, 06:19:59 AM »
I think it is a mistake to hold the people of a country accountable for the actions of it's government in this scenario.

Also realistically I think the appropiate response could be tempered on the realtionship that countries govt. e.g Saudi Arabia. It is not too much of a stretch to link the attacks on 11/9/01 with the Saudi's, but the appropiate response there was not the leveling of Ryiadh but co-operation.

My option would be an allied response against the terrorist group(s) (exactly like  the Afghanistan campaign), and if the case for the responsibilty of the govt involved was sound enough, the complete destruction of that govt. by conventional arms only like the attacks on the serbian infrastructure/army/govt. during the kosovo campaign, and only if possible the capture and subsequent trials of the leadership.

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« Reply #110 on: July 24, 2004, 07:01:07 AM »
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but who would work in a highly radiated enviroment just to pump radiated oil and then transport it?


  Put some of the experienced workers from Chernobl to work . :D
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« Reply #111 on: July 24, 2004, 07:35:58 AM »
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lol..

signing off this thread. time is better spent on the boat (to hot and humid to spend time ont he pc)


No air conditioner?
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« Reply #112 on: July 24, 2004, 09:31:03 AM »
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No air conditioner?


hehe no. Once i got out i realised that beeing outdoors is not so bad. Many colours and smells im not used to!

Better not overdo anything so i just snuck in for some r&r from all the 3D stuff out there.
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« Reply #113 on: July 24, 2004, 05:07:51 PM »
Tronski    re:    would not use nukes.

   Tronski I think I see a fatal flaw in your post.

   It was said that said country still has a few nukes. May be you didnt know that and I wonder if it would change your mind?

  I believe it would be wrong to take the time for u.n. resolutions etc. To keep credibilty we would have to move fast. Would  you really consider sending in our military with conv. weapons when they had nukes[ sorry but not my son you dont] For some reason, I dont understand how you could risk our future just because ,what ? I dont know the reason. Do you think they wouldnt use them again.? When they hit us do you have any idea the number of our countrymen we would lose,also if that happened I promise you china would hit us somewhere.

  I also believe this would be our fight and no one elses.

   Respectfully,demaw.
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« Reply #114 on: July 24, 2004, 10:28:31 PM »
Years of playing Civilization 3 has taught me one thing: If something like that ever happens, you retaliate with the same, if not greater, force that they used to attack you.

I would nuke their capitol, no buts about it. Say the terrorist was from Iran (which would be entirely likely). Well, they released a nuke in NYC. Why not release a nuke in all of their collective cities? The damage would still not be done, because Manhattan is far greater than all of the cities in Iran.

The solution? Carpet-nuke the entire nation of Iran. This is, of course, if the nuke is a real nuke, and not a dirty bomb. If it's a dirty bomb, just attack Iran full-force with conventional methods, and purge their government :aok .

If it's any other Mid-Eastern nation, however, just attack them and destroy their government. Chances are, the populace rarely agrees on anything their government does (this was evident in Iraq and Afghanistan).
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« Reply #115 on: July 25, 2004, 12:58:58 AM »
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Tronski    re:    would not use nukes.

   Tronski I think I see a fatal flaw in your post.

   It was said that said country still has a few nukes. May be you didnt know that and I wonder if it would change your mind?

  I believe it would be wrong to take the time for u.n. resolutions etc. To keep credibilty we would have to move fast. Would  you really consider sending in our military with conv. weapons when they had nukes[ sorry but not my son you dont] For some reason, I dont understand how you could risk our future just because ,what ? I dont know the reason. Do you think they wouldnt use them again.? When they hit us do you have any idea the number of our countrymen we would lose,also if that happened I promise you china would hit us somewhere.

  I also believe this would be our fight and no one elses.

   Respectfully,demaw.


I think the nuclear path is one that should never be travelled. Nuclear weapons are nation killers and are far too indiscriminate in their nature. The premise always stated there was at least some time between the terorrist act and your choice of action, time enough for convential arms to be massed. It is also not need the UNSC (although that would be prefunctionary issue) but the NATO treaties and the like would probably be in play here.
 
I don't believe China would suddenly strike
 
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« Reply #116 on: July 25, 2004, 05:49:55 AM »
China definately wouldn't strike, even if they had a better military at the time (Here's looking at you, Japan, circa 1941). The Chinese aren't stupid.
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« Reply #117 on: July 25, 2004, 06:46:10 AM »
Nuke the crap out of them.  Turn it into a wasteland as a lesson to the rest of the cameljockeys.
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« Reply #118 on: July 25, 2004, 10:12:50 AM »
"if" that happens and it can be traced back to a Middle Eastern country say hello to world war III.

You have one other factor to consider, Israel.  If a Mid East country is in any way involved Israel is going to be on the front lines.  I think we can all agree that the odds are Israel already has nukes, do you think they will wait for the next country attacked to be them?
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« Reply #119 on: July 25, 2004, 11:24:10 AM »
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>>does killing 200000 more give you some pleasure? <<

No, but it imediately destroys the infrastructure of the offending country. The number one duty of the U.S. is to protect it's sovereinty. Getting the aproval of the rest of the world is a very distant second.
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