Author Topic: Illegal Immigration (Read 1457 times)

jigsaw · « **Reply #30 on:** July 29, 2004, 04:56:45 AM »

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Originally posted by tony barnes
I put myself in thier shoe's cuz i can .
What If i were busting my arse fighting for jobs that arnt there , for money worth less than dirt to feed a family i love and hoplessly failing at evey turn.

What if you're an American in that exact situation who got laid off and can't find work because they hired three aformentioned illegals for old your job?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #31 on:** July 29, 2004, 08:19:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
damn...

13000 potential terrorists every day? and you worried about some nutjob in a galaxy far far away called saddam?

Prevention is sometimes the best medicine, especially considering how long he ignored UN resolutions, and sought yellow cake, and committed genocide on his own people.

Funny how the Democrats/Socialists in this country critisized GB1 for not "going all the way to Bagdad" and removing Saddam in GW1. Now that we have, they critisize GWB for doing so.

Can't have it both ways.

ramzey · « **Reply #32 on:** July 29, 2004, 10:58:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Prevention is sometimes the best medicine, especially considering how long he ignored UN resolutions, and sought yellow cake, and committed genocide on his own people.

Funny how the Democrats/Socialists in this country critisized GB1 for not "going all the way to Bagdad" and removing Saddam in GW1. Now that we have, they critisize GWB for doing so.

Can't have it both ways.

prevent you can sicknes if you wash your hands before you eat, or take vitamines.
Prevent strike is BS, Hitler and Stalin did prevent war against Poland and whats happend later?

How about prevent lock in jail all drivers over 21, beucose they can drive and buy alkochol? and can cose drunk drivers accident

How about eliminate all childrens who ever hold any gun to prevent secound Colimbine?

How about close all aircraft factories and ground all planes , beucose somone can use it as weapont to attck our citties?
a hell
how about prevent people from killing each others and and lock all of them?

how about doing prevent brain surgery for som AHBB users? to bright his mindes?

you guys have no idea whats mean to be illegal
you dont knkow how paintful can be **** up by smart american employee who still money for your work. And foull you beucose you are illegal.

lazs2 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 29, 2004, 11:47:58 AM »

all the reasons to craclk down on illegal aliens are good ones.

The only reason given to allow illegals (pick our melons) is silly. We used to have 40 mexicans on a tomato sorter when things were more lax and there were no wage laws. Now we have 2 on the same pece of equipment... lasers do the job and do it better.

get rid of the illegals and we will get better mellon picking equipment.

I think that most people rfeel this way about the illegals but are afraid.

The threat of terrorism is a good excuse for some brave politician to take a stand and tighten up the borders. He will win by a landslide.

lazs

-MZ- · « **Reply #34 on:** July 29, 2004, 11:50:22 AM »

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Originally posted by jigsaw
What if you're an American in that exact situation who got laid off and can't find work because they hired three aformentioned illegals for old your job?

Get out of the janitorial industry?

Masherbrum · « **Reply #35 on:** July 29, 2004, 11:57:11 AM »

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Originally posted by JBA
Put the National Guard on the boarders. And deport those we catch already here. No appeals.

The last number I heard was that 13000 a day cross the boarder.

Hospitals all long the boarders are going bankrupt dealing with the free medical they have to hand out. Soon there will no longer be hospitals for the citizens in these areas.

Send them back to come back again? Nah, have to come up with something better. They will keep trying. It is a tough job.

Karaya

ramzey · « **Reply #36 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:15:28 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

get rid of the illegals and we will get better mellon picking equipment.

take another loan and pay from this equipment by the next 5 years, rise prices and cannot sell his product due high prices.
meanwhile somone in china will establish plantation with lots of cheap chineese workers picking up melons. Send that product to US and sell for much lower price.
And everybody will be happy to buy cheap product made by china beucose is cheap (like everything else here)
So gov will earn money from custom, som folks who trade with china. And american empoye will left with expencive equipment on the field and loan and bills to pay.

-MZ- · « **Reply #37 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:19:29 PM »

If farmers can't survive against foreign competition without illegal labor, let them go bankrupt. Dozens of countries would love to sell us farm products.

lazs2 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:33:20 PM »

Nope... ramzey and mz are both incorrect... probly don't live in farming country.

In the case of the laser sorters... the equipment is no more expensive than the old equipment... the savings are immense. Most farm equipment is obsolete anyway in a short time as new and more efficient equipment comes on board.

less and less migrant (much less illegals) are seen in farm country every year. Farming will not even want them in a few years.

farming is not a good excuse for allowing people to break the law anymore.

Point is... it is illegal now. it needs to be stopped or... made legal. There is no reason that makes sense to allow it to go on as an illegal activity that is enforced sporadicly and unevenly.

lazs

mosgood · « **Reply #39 on:** July 29, 2004, 01:24:34 PM »

Lose the illegals, crack down on welfare and let the welfare losers pick the tomatoes.

ramzey · « **Reply #40 on:** July 29, 2004, 03:36:43 PM »

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Originally posted by mosgood
Lose the illegals, crack down on welfare and let the welfare losers pick the tomatoes.

come one thay are to lazzzy to get swet, better is watch TV, drink beer, and complain about illegals

ramzey · « **Reply #41 on:** July 29, 2004, 03:53:47 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

Point is... it is illegal now. it needs to be stopped or... made legal. There is no reason that makes sense to allow it to go on as an illegal activity that is enforced sporadicly and unevenly.

lazs

do you ever read immigration conditions to US?
its allow to bring somone by your family connections , highest educated persons who have good invention
or "politics" refuges from war zones

what with those who not have family here and are not polliticall refuges. Not everyone can be Einstein but can felt in love to U.S.

what with those who are just regular peoples who like to live here as everybody else. We like to fix the world but we not like to have this people here. We are "big brother " who tell them what to do but thats is no rule for us?

Is that still land of the free? sure but not for everyone, only for this who have luck and familly connections ?
I bet , 99% of illegall alliens will defence this country with full sucrifice, 100% like to be here legall even without full benefits from gov. They like to pay taxes, pay for medical coverage etc , etc

but better for citizens is to have illegal nanny with PHD, then pay her as for citizen worker.
Allways employer who hire illegal can show him for friends or customers , as monkey mopping floor and laugh from person who know 3 languages and have fine skills.
Better is for gov to spend money for law enforcment, hire clerks let groove institution like INS, then naturalise thos peoples and let them live and pay taxes. ( btw even if somone is illegal, he still pay taxes when go to shop or take gas)

anyway, you guys afraid people who like to work hard, harder then you, you not afraid mexicans who mostly take low skills jobs

I bet NOONE who read this forum, EVER will take 5/h $ job in full sun, or go to cut grass around houses and apartments.
Just to have work, welfer is much better

anonymous · « **Reply #42 on:** July 29, 2004, 04:58:29 PM »

any nation that doesnt understand that its borders need to be controlled stands in defiance of logic. if other nation had same problem us had with neighboring nation where several thousand people a day entering undocumented and unscreened you can bet the response would be more effective in terms of fixing the problem.

AKIron · « **Reply #43 on:** July 29, 2004, 05:53:33 PM »

Tough problem.

Land of Opportunity vs Secure jobs

demaw1 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 29, 2004, 06:25:54 PM »

Elc7367 just a reply

I want to thank you for the difficult job you do.I realize you are getting kicked in the teeth by the democrates,and slugged in the stomach by republicans. I think you are from texas so you may not know that in so.ca.at 3;00 pm on kfi radio there are 2 guys ken and bob [not sure of name] that are really trying to help you guys.They are getting national coverage now,most of it not good but they have a very large following. They have a movement going to try to get a republican congressman defeated in a safe seat area to send the word out on the border problem.So far it is scaring most of them as we are republicans also.They had the senior senator and attorn.gen of texas on last week I probaly heard most of what you are going to say.I posted what they said and got lambasted by the normal suspects here.
If you can dont stop, some of us are trying ,besides most of these left wing goofs in here dont believe the terriost are crossing over much less infiltrating our small cities. You may be our first line of defence,again thank you for your service.