Author Topic: Aces HIgh II: 1st Camp After Action Report (Read 4304 times)

mars01 · « **Reply #105 on:** August 03, 2004, 03:42:40 PM »

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These are guys that I have fought in the DA and in the MA and I know for a fact that none of them can fight their way out of a wet paper bag in the MA scenario, but will hand you your arnold in the DA.

That would be sarcasm. lol

Zazen13 · « **Reply #106 on:** August 03, 2004, 03:53:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
X2Lee, you should know Zazen well enough from AW that he will not engage in a 1v1 fight nor duel. Both will reveal his shortcomings, which is the underlying reason for his posting this thread. Which is also the reason why he made mention of your stats against his to show "his uberness" but doesn't point out that the fighting styles of both of you are polar opposites. I've had the pleasure of flying with you for many years, some of those in Red Dawn and I know how you fly, aggressive and willing to mix it up. Zazen on the other hand is more timid, will not engage in 1v1s unless he's got a superior advantage and will not engage if you are coalt. He usually hangs back outside of a furball gathering altitude and pounces on those that are already engaged in a fight. So let Zazen hide behind these numbers if they give him a false sense of being good, because you know and I know how Zazen would fair in a 1v1 and I wouldn't put my money on Zazen.

ack-ack

AKAK, you amuse me with your 'understanding' of how I fly. Quite incredible considering I have never fought you or fought with you.
You have no clue what I do, obviously. For someone who is famous for flying 30k in an EZ-Gunnery-Mode P38 you sure are quick to pass judgement on me. Since, you seem to enjoy comparisons, let's compare your stats with mine from last camp shall we? Including K/T which should show who is more timid and prone to alt excessively:

AKAK's Tour 54 Fighter Stats:

K/D:2.28:1
K/S:1.69
K/H:5.97
Hit %:7.7%
Points:36,568
Fighter Rank:110th
Fighter Hours:62:42

Zazen's Tour 54 Fighter Stats:

K/D:12.28:1
K/S:2.89
K/H:6.51
Hit %:9.97%
Points:48,000
Fighter Rank:17th
Fighter Hours:39:29

Conclusions:

-You die more than 5 times as much as I do per kill.

-You kill just over one-half as many per sortie as I do.

-You get almost 1 kill an hour less than I do, which I find especially incredible since your P38 is an amazing climber and I only fly planes that climb like bricks. This is especially significant since you rarely land kills which should be saving you considerable time. This just goes to show how much time you spend alting and fleeing.

-Your Hit % is 2.2% less than mine, which translates to you being 23% less accurate a shot than I am, which is also amazing since I fly only planes with wing mounted guns and you fly only the P38 that is nose-fire EZ gunnery mode.

-I out-score you by 12k even though I flew just over half as many hours as you did ranking 17th vs. your 110th in the process.

Summary:

There is not one single category in Fighter Piloting you are even close to me in, including Kills/Time. I won't even bring up the fact that you have a year and half headstart on me in Aces High on top of all that....Time for a reality check there spud.

Zazen

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #107 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:00:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13 So, relative skill still should be the deciding factor when looking at overall country success.

You cannot make this assertion with any confidence. The level of measurement of the data does not allow it. You hit on the correct description earlier when you noted that, despite fluctuations in numbers over time, the Rooks consistently achieve a higher K/D ratio than the other teams. That is a statement you can make based on the data available. Any statement beyond that involves conjecture that the data cannot and will not substantiate.

-- Todd/Leviathn

DoctorYO · « **Reply #108 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:01:09 PM »

Like a broken record.....

"We've got the best pilots....... Plain and simple.."

Zazen even with your statistics punching them upside the head they are still in denial....

Then we hear oh, i dont land my kills.. oh you outnumber...

the outnumber one i take offence to.. If they rode the gauntlet 2-3 years ago they would have skills too.. Either develope them or die and die alot..

I remember when our 4-5 bases at a time were taken right out from under us.. In like 10-15 mins or less.... remember those fun days sitting on 4+ kill sorties having all your return bases stolen and fighting (note fighting..) thru enemy territory to get home.. in a light g10 gas tank thats a chore.. they dont understand what thats all about.. they just dont understand... even with RJO I have yet to see whole country halves get rolled in 15 minutes.. But when you have 150 + 150 vs 50 thats what happens... and those 50 are the rook ringers you see today..

If you ask me about the current numbers scenario you fellas got it easy..

You need to study your history you might learn something..

DoctorYo

PS Great work Zazen....

Zazen13 · « **Reply #109 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:10:02 PM »

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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Like a broken record.....

"We've got the best pilots....... Plain and simple.."

Zazen even with your statistics punching them upside the head they are still in denial....

Then we hear oh, i dont land my kills.. oh you outnumber...

the outnumber one i take offence to.. If they rode the gauntlet 2-3 years ago they would have skills too.. Either develope them or die and die alot..

I remember when our 4-5 bases at a time were taken right out from under us.. In like 10-15 mins or less.... remember those fun days sitting on 4+ kill sorties having all your return bases stolen and fighting (note fighting..) thru enemy territory to get home.. in a light g10 gas tank thats a chore.. they dont understand what thats all about.. they just dont understand... even with RJO I have yet to see whole country halves get rolled in 15 minutes.. But when you have 150 + 150 vs 50 thats what happens... and those 50 are the rook ringers you see today..

If you ask me about the current numbers scenario you fellas got it easy..

You need to study your history you might learn something..

DoctorYo

PS Great work Zazen....

Thanks DoctorYO,

This reminds me of those shows on extraterrestrials. There's always some pinhead from the Government looking at the pictures, the film, hearing eye-witness accounts from the military and the police but sill stubbornly debunking it all as a hoax.

He says something like, "Extra-terrestrials do not exist, these 500 people with no motive for deception are all suffering from mass delusions."

This type of person wouldn't believe in extra-terrestrials if one walked up to him at the breakfast table and plopped a juicy, green, alien crap-biscuit right there in his wife's oatmeal.

I deal with them at work and here on this message board, I'm getting used to it. You've just got to keep throwing those 'annoying' things called FACTS up in their face until they go blind.

Zazen

X2Lee · « **Reply #110 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:18:57 PM »

what plane u fly zazen?

bet its in the top 3 on speed

cause yer a runny bunny

a no skil wont fight runny bunny

RedTop · « **Reply #111 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:19:14 PM »

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Originally posted by DoctorYO
PS Great work Zazen....DoctorYo

Just more than I wanted to quote with the rest of your talk....

Just want to say this ....

Please practice safe sex you two.

Zazen13 · « **Reply #112 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:22:49 PM »

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Originally posted by X2Lee
what plane u fly zazen?

bet its in the top 3 on speed

cause yer a runny bunny

a no skil wont fight runny bunny

I fly 4 planes to the almost total exclusion of all others:

Typhoon
P51D
F6F-5
P47D-40

Once in a blue moon I'll fly:

Hurricane IIc
Spit5
Spit9
Tempest

I have never flown:

Lgay7

Zazen

X2Lee · « **Reply #113 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:40:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
I fly 4 planes to the almost total exclusion of all others:

Typhoon
P51D
F6F-5
P47D-40

and yer ingame ID...

Zazen13 · « **Reply #114 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:41:30 PM »

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Originally posted by X2Lee
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I fly 4 planes to the almost total exclusion of all others:

Typhoon
P51D
F6F-5
P47D-40

and yer ingame ID...

Ummm...

Zazen

X2Lee · « **Reply #115 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:48:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
Ummm...

Zazen

I see like I said all the planes u fly are run bunnies except the
f6 its a CV ack bunny.

Zazen13 · « **Reply #116 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:53:33 PM »

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Originally posted by X2Lee
I see like I said all the planes u fly are run bunnies except the
f6 its a CV ack bunny.

If I run so much how come I have 6.5 kills/ hour and you only have 5 kills/hour, and you fly one of the fastest climbing planes in the game and I only fly planes that climb like bricks?

Zazen

X2Lee · « **Reply #117 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:56:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
If I run so much how come I have 6.5 kills/ hour and you only have 5 kills/hour, and you fly one of the fastest climbing planes in the game and I fly only planes that climb like bricks?

Zazen

Did you read the part about kicking yer arse?
Whats yer lame excuse?

Zazen13 · « **Reply #118 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:57:26 PM »

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Originally posted by X2Lee
Did you read the part about kicking yer arse?
Whats yer lame excuse?

Haha, that's what I thought!

Get back in your hole!

Zazen

X2Lee · « **Reply #119 on:** August 03, 2004, 05:00:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
Haha, that's what I thought!

Get back in your hole!

Zazen

Thats what I thought for your info I can easily be in the top 25
pilot ranks in the game. Its just to lame to do tho.
I think its sissified is why I dont.

U have to be a runny bunny to do it.